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Title:
Thunderbird incorrectly shows some Gmail archived messages
I have had 2 Thunderbird 45 instances for the same Gmail account open in
the last weeks, viewing the All Mail folder while I was deleting mails
from that folder. On several occasions, I noticed after deleting and/or
tagging mails from one instance that the other instance wasn't updated.
The deleted
Still seems to be an issue for me with Gmail. At least I assume this is
the same issue. In my case, I filter all emails into folders (or
"labels" as Gmail calls them) on the server. So all emails sent directly
to *my* email address go to a folder/label called "Me".
== Steps to reproduce ==
1. Open
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(In reply to Tom Guyette from comment #61)
> I did an experiment and I believe "sooner or later" can be replaced with
> "Restart Thunderbird." This is my attempt at documenting the workaround
> step by step:
> EVERY TIME YOU WANT TO REFRESH THE INBOX:
> 2 - Close Thunderbird, including all mai
Not sure what smartphones you have there but I have a permanent IDLE
connection from mine, as on the desktop with Thunderbird. If disabling
IDLE in Thunderbird is part of the workaround, then I think IDLE
implementation is the problem. I'm not using IDLE for fun, I want to see
new messages as they
(In reply to WADA from comment #58)
> (In reply to Tom Guyette from comment #57)
> Do you read about a workaround of "max cached connection=1"?
Thanks WADA. I read the whole thread, after reading another long thread
that was closed as a duplicate of this one, so by the time I got here I
was very
(In reply to Tom Guyette from comment #57)
Do you read about a workaround of "max cached connection=1"?
If shared with iPhone, I believe mail volume, number of mboxes, frequency of
new mails, new mail volue, are not so large,
If so, "max cached connection=1", "disable IDLE", "adequate new mail
(In reply to Tom Guyette from comment #61)
> Would it be possible to simply add a "Refresh folder" function to the "Get
> Messages" dropdown button
> that would perform a complete refresh of the current folder and Preferred
> Folder?
Tb already has button for "Refresh folder from scratch". It's
(In reply to Yves Goergen from comment #59)
> Not sure what smartphones you have there but I have a permanent IDLE
> connection from mine,
> as on the desktop with Thunderbird. If disabling IDLE in Thunderbird is part
> of the workaround, then I think IDLE implementation is the problem.
> I'm no
All this discussion is very well and good, but how do we work around
this problem?
I'm deleting e-mails from Gmail on my iPhone and still seeing them hours
later in Thunderbird.
Work Offline > Work Online > Click another folder > Click Inbox seems to
force resynch.
I'd really prefer not to do th
FYI.
I've opened Bug 1124924.
Bug 1124924 - If CONDSTORE is usable, use "uid fetch 1:* flags (CHANGDEDSINCE
modseq)" for new mail check by Biff instead of "uid fetch NextUID:* flags", in
order to resolve problem like Bug 693204, Bug 517461
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FYI #1.
If CONDSTORE support of Tb is enabled(mail.server.default.use_condstore=true,
or mail.server.server#.use_condstore=true), and if imap server supports
CONDSTORE, bug 1123617 occurs even after go Work Offline/go Work Online again.
i.e. "Workaroudof this bug/recovery operaation of this bug",
(In reply to WADA from comment #51)
...
> (a) As repeatedly written, after go Work Offline the go back Work Online,
> explicit folder open by new folder click is mandtory to force server access
> again. When did go Work Offline the go back Work Online, did youa ctually
> do it?
Yes, did that.
>
(In reply to alister.hood from comment #52)
> But testing a few more times I discovered that it actually does work, just
> only every second time
> - i.e. I have to do "offline>online>other folder>back to
> folder>offline>online>other folder>back to folder" before it updates.
It's perhaps "conne
(In reply to alister.hood from comment #52)
> Well, I disabled it in mail.server.default.use_condstore - there is no
> ...use_condstore setting for the account, so I guess Seamonkey doesn't
> implement it per account - or should I just create the setting?
The implementation is identical between Se
(In reply to alister.hood from comment #50)>
> but I see the same thing (going offline does not work, I have to restart) in
> "standard" Seamonkey, (snip)
IIUC, there is no difference between SeMonkey and Thunderbird, as for
phenomeon of this bug.
(a) As repeatedly written, after go Work Offlin
(In reply to WADA from comment #43)
> (In reply to Yves Goergen from comment #42)
> > In case you're not aware of it anymore, going offline and back online does
> > not resolve the issue. At least for me.
> > The only thing that does help is restarting Thunderbird, which I have to
> > doo every
I've found that some extensions also cause problems with this. Two that
I've found so far are:
- ImportExportTools (seems to do lots of concurrent IMAP operations with Tbird,
often resulting in "Operation in progress" messages)
- Send Without Save(Copy Sent to Current has equivalent functionality
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Title:
Thunderbird incorrectly shows some Gmail archived mess
If I recall correctly, that's a case which the condstore feature is
supposed to cover. However, since the MailNews implementation is broken
(see bug 885220 and bug 912216) I wouldn't be surprised if it's an issue
prompted by that. I don't see this for non-Gmail servers which are not
using condstore
I don't use gmail+imap, but I've seen some issues with marking many
years ago (these was never been consistent)
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Thunde
rsx11m, Nikolay, do you have anything to add?
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Thunderbird incorrectly shows some Gmail archived messages as unread
v
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(In reply to Yves Goergen from comment #42)
> In case you're not aware of it anymore, going offline and back online does
> not resolve the issue. At least for me.
> The only thing that does help is restarting Thunderbird, which I have to doo
> every few days (snip)
Funny. It sounds that your Th
(In reply to Miguel from comment #38)
(In reply to Rich from comment #39)
If this bug is so critical for you and so important for you, why you never do
one of next yet?
(a) Use other than Thunderbird as your mailer which fully fulfills your
pretty important requirement(s).
(b) Use other soph
(In reply to Nye Liu from comment #36)
> Would it be possible to at least add some sort of menu option next to "work
> offline" ... like "force sync" or something?
A possible way.
- Install "Custom Buttons" addon, add your own Toolbar Button labeled "force
sync".
- Put small JavaScript code like
(In reply to WADA from comment #40)
> - Put small JavaScript code like "click Work Offline, reply if required,
> wait for a while, click Work Online, reply if required".
In case you're not aware of it anymore, going offline and back online
does not resolve the issue. At least for me. The only thin
Yes, I too have become exceedingly frustrated with this problem to the
point of considering a move to another email client. Given that a very
painful manual workaround is available and has been for some time, it
seems criminal that these workaround steps haven't been automated within
Thunderbird.
(In reply to WADA from comment #27)
> -Problem of this bug;
> - Because server doesn't notify flag status change via IDLE,
> Tb can't know flag status change of mails at server Mbox via IDLE.
> - Tb's expectaion of "server notifies flag status change via IDLE" is never
> RFC violation,
*(In reply to plop from comment #34)
Yeah, plop, that's why I switched to the Evolution mail program instead.
It seems to work better with Gmail than Thunderbird. I don't wish
Thunderbird to die out or anything, but I probably won't go back any
time soon.
Although, I am slowly getting away from
4 x windows xp machines running thunderbird 24.1.1
2 x iphones (ios 6 and 7)
All sharing 4 different mailboxes.
Up until recently we used ms but changed due to roaming issues without
exchange.
Our email is hosted by gmail.
All email was replicated instantly using outlook so gmail is not the
pro
Would it be possible to at least add some sort of menu option next to
"work offline" ... like "force sync" or something?
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(In reply to WADA from comment #32)
> All "comuication between IMAP cliet(Thunderbird) and IMAP server" is done by
> "IMAP command and responce". How can software developers know "what actually
> happens in your environment" without required data?
Any developper can repro the bug easily: create a
(In reply to delid4ve from comment #33)
> (snip) offline/online / different folder / manually checking for mail does
> not solve. (snip)
> IDLE is enabled accross, but i have disabled and makes no difference.
It's pretty simple. Merely one of next,
(i) Your problem is not this bug. Your proble
(In reply to Yves Goergen from comment #31)
> Guess what, this isn't even limited to Gmail. (snip)
What is reason to add new "merely 'me too' comment without required data for
problem analysis" to this bug, even after reading my bug 712595 comment #24?
There is no need of such "guess" in this bug
Guess what, this isn't even limited to Gmail. It happens on my own IMAP
server as well. It's running Dovecot on Linux. See bug 712595. Offline
and online mode does not help. Changing folders does not work. Only
restarting Thunderbird helps for sure. Until then, I regularly see
unread or read messag
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Title:
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Years ago it worked... I guess it was from the Thunderbird 2-3 times.
Are we sure the problem is related to IDLE flag updates? Why do other
IMAP clients detect deletions almost instantaneously?
I have Thunderbird 24.1.0 and K9Mail on android both connected to the same IMAP
account on Zimbra 8.
I
(In reply to WADA from comment #27)
> - Tb's expectaion of "server notifies flag status change via IDLE" is never
> RFC violation, because "flag status change notification via IDLE" is
> SHOULD.
I'd say that is only true if "flag status change notification via IDLE"
is MUST.
Seems to me tha
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Reassigned to the duplicate Mozilla bug. Unfortunately, this resets the
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Title:
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"IDLE does not send unsolicited responses for flag changes" is not Gmail IMAP
only issue.
Issue of "Tb is not torelant with 'IDLE does not send unsolicited responses for
flag changes'" is not Gmail IMAP only issue.
Because bug 693204 was processed after analysis of many bugs, that bug is
crispy
Still experiencing this with 17.0.5, does any further information need
to be provided?
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We could take advantage of the X-GM-LABELS and X-GM-MSGID attributes to
fix this bug.
Algorithm would be: If message flags are updated and message has X-GM-
LABELS, then iterate labels and find messages with matching X-GM-MSGID
and update the flags for those messages.
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I am experiencing this on TB 11.0.1, OSX 10.7.3.
Maybe something in my settings, though, because it seems to be occurring
on one account in particular (amongst several gmail imap accounts).
I delete from Inbox ('Remove It Immediately') and it remains unread in
All Mail, and shows up for an extend
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