I am agree with that decision what Canonical took. I noticed I am faster
with the left-option (mouseway) and it's really nice looking. Why I
didn't noticed it before? But true, it's really better. Now we know too
that it was made for a special reason... so I am ignoring all words
against and hope t
#150:
Ubuntu is Ubuntu. It isn't a Mac-OS and it isn't a Windows-OS. It hasn't
to be similiar with any Operating Systems like Android, Win, Mac, BeOs,
... The most Peoples comes from Windows and if it isn't the same they
will return to Windows is a bad and old argument. If I install another
OS I k
What really sad is, is the fact that peoples won't changes. For example in my
country (Germany) there are many peoples they don't like changes in customs...
they don't like new versions of programs or new versions of an OS. For that
reason still are many peoples who still uses Windows XP and Int
# 158: I thought only loud; but my opinion is without analytic base and
yes, for many peoples it's relevant, probably, and I have to respect it.
Sorry for speaking loud my emotions and thinkings at that moment.
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@fewt you're doing really play the surprised? McDonalds... you can let
suggestions, feedbacks, reclamations. You go there to enjoy your
hamburger, but you can't enter in the kitchen and fry your own
hamburgers. You are not a kitchen-employee of that company. The same
Canonical's product Ubuntu. The
This thread would be shorter, better and more serious for the design
team if we 'switch of' "emotions" finally.
# 194 is a back to topic and has interesting points. The design team
needs good points and facts for take good decisions. Stay by topic is
the most helpful thing that we can do.
One sol
Off-Topic... who cares now!
@ Mark:
Lucid Lynx is frightening good and nice-looking. Microsoft will spend
you another travel to the space for free; better said to the moon,
because they wish you out of the planet earth after the release surely!
Hold the course ... Bug [1]. :D
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@ Atel Apsfej:
+1
But publish ideas and inventions soon in form of mock-up's can be copied
by the concurrence and the "Joker"-Card is played before it could dig
hurtful. Better believe to Shuttleworth and let him play the poker-game
without rush him show his cards. I believe in his abilities, you
@ Atel Apsfej:
Wow. I am baffled about your ability to write and think. Here are writing many
genius, but not all here have your ability to say it clear, with good arguments
(points) and the cruel reality without being offensive, arrogant or simply
unrespectful. I saw you are member here since
I hear alway touchscreens as argument. But it's a funny argument in my
eyes. The pick-up'ed Icons on the panel, switch off - button on the
panel, control-buttons (right or left), hide windows-applet, ... all is
too small for that feature. Honestly it needs a different Desktop-
Interface like the Ub
# 281:
Really the minority? I had understand in a post before that 99.9% are
happy with it and 0.1% unhappy... they come here in search of shout loud
somewhere! and let a comment. :-) ... Well, maybe I am only saturated a
little bit with the 280 comments: yes, not, anger, off-topic, chantage,
idea
Aigars that is the wonderful thing that all is left. The start-menu on
the panel. The windows with their control-buttons, the menu, the
toolbar-icons, most important bookmarks, tabs, ... Wow, it's really
faster work with it. I never clicked bad, because I look quickly and
target well... like alway
@ Aigars
"Moving such dangerous button as 'Close' into the mix increases it even
more as you will want to be REALLY careful not to close your window by
accident."
This should be the reason why the ’Close’-button is in the third
place... for ’no’ clicking by accident.
"... there are many elements
fraid to do what they think to do
and give Ubuntu a new, nice and recognize face.
respectfully Scholli
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"Well... never user a touchpad? Or a >5 years old mouse? Ask your elderly
about their gesture precision too...
Gesture precision has nothing to do with the left or right side
But it does! Cann't you see that?"
I have to admit that this is probably a negative point from this change. The
rest of
Peoples are thinking what that new feature can be in 10.10!? And I found
this idea in a forum (mock-up made by tawk):
http://media.ubuntuusers.de/forum/attachments/2410878/hybrid-leiste.png
So the motto is "Change" we have to tolerate new stuffs and the
decisions behind that (if you can't accept)
@ Weare:
But the close-button on the Firefox-tabs and Google-Chrome (Chromium)
-tabs are on the right. Like the close-button in the control-buttons-bar
on the Metacity; it's on the right, too. Where is the inconsistency,
please? It's on the left, but it isn't a Mac-Clone, because the order is
diff
I am out of here, too. I see the bug is in progress now - so the
developers has collected enough datas. Let's see how the final decision
will be. :-)
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In my opinion the most are more nightmares than value arguments. I am
tester and since Alpha 3 I am using Lucid with all default from home.
Than the new Brand come and I had the buttons left. I was surprised, but
I gave it a change. Till today I haven't noticed any contra-
productivity, inconsisten
Clicking on the menu?! (I saw it in the linked forum). But what bad
precision, really. wow. The distance is far enough. If the control-
buttons haves finally hover- and pushing-functionality you see clear!
you are over the buttons and not over the menu. Have it all near
together (menu, toolbar-butt
Data form User Scholli:
(male, 35 years, right-hand)
1. Mouse-position:
Before the change I had the buttons always on the right. The mouse was
generally on the right side. But actions like save, open etc. let me moving the
mouse from right to left and back again - automaticly.
Now after ~ 2
@ Pyramid Technologies
What a nonsense. In what relations you can put together the Vista-fail
with the buttons?
1. you are sure the majority want it? You want it. Peoples who didn't tried it
for a long period will say firstly "no". But this statement is generally not
fair.
2. this is a fair poi
"Don't change things for the sake of change, or to differentiate. Make changes
because they make improvements.
(as I said before, no one would just changes the order of throttle and brake in
a car, without a very good reason)"
I think differentiate is important. Every OS should have his own iden
Besides... I saw in the Ubuntu-Forum in Germany that the Threat about
the new button-placing is poor in visits and comments. The Offtopic-
Lucid-Threat are many voices that peoples loves the new look and way. I
don't thing that the whole world is against that. And who's against, can
change the opin
@ Bernhard:
Wow, true. This was a really good idea what they did with the Metacity-
update. If Grandma likes it on the right, so she can switching in a
simple the theme... "Dust" for example. ;) I thing it's a good
compromise - like it. This could calm the most of the present inscribers
here in th
@ Scaine
What you think it's spam from me are only my intents for opening the
mind, see the stuff from another angle (point) and show that most of
the arguments don't haves the gravity they looks like at first moment.
This threat is a meeting form "I am against it"-folk and I am in mission
to giv
No Pietro. The custom-themes haves now the possibility to do their
themes with the control-buttons on the left or the right (look down).
The rest of the themes have it on the right, because they was made for
it and they looks better this way.
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Type=X-GNOME-Metat
28 minutes of shorter mouseways with the control-buttons left. I do my
usual work with the new adopt habits.?field.comment=28 minutes of
shorter mouseways with the control-buttons left. I do my usual work with
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Can put somebody this bug as medium-importance? It's a very nerving bug!
Thx
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I have the good impression that Lucid will be a big success. It's the
beautifulest and full with great features (Ubuntu's Indicator-Applets,
Music-Store, Software-Center, ...) Distro far and wide in the Linux-
World. Since Karmic I love the good progress Ubuntu is going. Even
Windows 7 looks now wo
After Mark S. clear statement we got here only comments of peoples they
can't stop crying. It's so, because they know that Mark S. is here and
is reading the comments. I hope that this exploitation will stop now and
we will get here ***only*** clear datas from the key-peoples. Thanks.
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Steve it's a nice work you did. But is IOGraphica do the same with the
heats, is more exactly (continuous and not every 5 seconds) and show the
ways you did with the mouse. But in the end it's maybe a good script for
a long time data collect. So I think it's great, too. Thanks.
Maybe a notice with
@ last inscribers:
right click on screen - click on "change appearance and background" -
choose the theme-tab - choose a theme like "Dust" ... have fun with
right.
Ambiance and Radiance have a unique good look with left. I am associating
Ubuntu with left - max,min,close now. Would be sad to los
Work with Windows @ work and work with Ubuntu @ home it's not stringent
necessary to put them on the right. I have to respect that it's confusing for
some peoples, mostly for elder persons, okay. At other side there are many
peoples in the world who can handle it easily. They say maybe, like me:
Wrong Pyramid. Microsoft will include a new feature, because it's really
better and if they are unsure the will insert a option for redo this
change to old habits. The same happens here. We have a change, but you
are always free to redo it if you wish it. The mistakes of Microsoft are
that they mad
@ Webster:
" + - X " ... " ^ v X " ... " [ ] _ X " is obviously the same and
the most used symbols I saw over the last years in Windows-decorations
in gnome-look.org for example.
"^" means simply: up - bigger - grow
"v" means oviously: down - small - minimize
The next is the design-issue...
@ Piramid :)
I will link out here. I don't wont have here a only 3-man-threat. We
have a completely different way to see the stuff. I respect it, but it's
not mine. bye
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not a own face finally, but surely a good marketing-gag :)
The light-theme fits to the modern Icons very well and the hardest bugs
has gone... now it's only fine-tuning. The new Indicators on Panel and
only the better Software-Center makes Ubuntu to the best choose for the
next generation-folks.
@ Pyramid:
:-D Radical decisions from a heart-broken man. I look forward... send me
a postcard if I was right. Cheers
PD: Don't forget "sudo"; better is the partition-manager from the new
Live-CD. ;)
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@ pYramid:
I didn't win, so my argument about unique has gone. I liked the initial
'order' more, because IT was so unique and you had to think a little bit
before you want close the windows really! ... meanwhile you looked for
the red point.
Your last comment was "sweet". "Dude, what is written o
# 588 ... and it's not Piko, but Pako
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Slowly, slowly. I am not a IT-Specialist, but even me I know that every
new Version has to been 'patched' before it's going out. It's always a
lot of work and always the same thing. Before it goes out it have to be
tested (... but in Alpha and Beta I'm not always sure they do :). And
now I come to
@ Jeff:
"A "minor" change that hardly affected me at all, it's had a 100%
negative (sometimes violent) reaction from 20 users I've polled."
I don't understand!? You updated to Lucid "Beta1" in your company? It's
still not for productive work. In the final you will have the option for
putting them
@ Jeff:
(Data and Gnome3)
See my data if you got accustomed to work with the buttons on left #489. I let
the mouse, if I am working in the center and left. You will notice shorter
mouseways simply, because all important actions happens on the left-side. About
Gnome3: All is important is on the
"(in case anyone asks: Why am I still posting here if I've moved to
Debian? Well, I'm in the lifeboat just watching the Titanic sink is
all.)"
distrowatch.com
It's rising ... after publishing Lucid, it still will growing. No Titanic here!
Why? Because Ubuntu is cleaning up the ***old*** dust and
mouth (sorry)
@Bob
Yes with Windows... My first Computer was an Amiga and it was different.
It was bad? Nop! You will wonder the quick you can change customs. ,)
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I still not sure about the order. The big points of the initial-order
was:
1. unique - own face
2. consistence with the close-buttons in the tabs for example (right side)
3. you have to look a second for it (search for it a little bit) before closing
... time for thinking: "you want close really!
In a LTS for custom peoples to use them left - show them that Ubuntu
have a new Brand with a new design (CHANGE).
Top-Arguments for left are:
- Gnome 3 (Commando-Bar and Activity are on the left)
- new feature arrives in the perfect 10 (10.10)
- shorter mouseways after a short training
- it looks
sudo gedit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/index.theme
sudo gedit /usr/share/themes/Radiance/index.theme
1. ButtonLayout=close,minimize,maximize: (default)
2. ButtonLayout=close,minimize,maximize:menu(my setting)
3. ButtonLayout=:maximize,minimize,close (I want it on right
@ Paul Sladen:
Thank you for your professional correction.
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@ bt90:
No I think it isn't a good idea. At moment it would be cool, but if the
new feature (10.10) will be included we have a problem... you can't
reach the new feature-stuff. ,)
A button or a ratio-button for change the side is easier to realize and
would be a solution for everybody. For me it'
Thanks for everybody. This was solved fast and the usability is muc
better now. Thanks
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I say "yes"... and I see that always more and more peoples are agreed
with left.
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I did updates since Beta1 and I don't have this feature what is shown in
the attached screenshot. But now I see that it exists and probably I
have to do a fresh install with the final release for get it working
finally. But seeing that, everything should be fine now, for everybody!?
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In Germany the feedback about the new LTS is very very positve. Most of
the users, not Alpha- Beta-testers are surrprised about the fast, very
fast booting and exited about the new and modern Design. Only a low
percent in the forums etc. (~ 2-5%) is worry about the new Design or
about the position
Avetik Topchyan wrote:
>IMHO, that has to be configured through GUI, like other settings, and not a
>through a terminal command. Why make life harder >than it should be?..
"Ubuntu Tweak" can be found, quickly, in the Software-Center. Life can
be so easy ... ;-)
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