status on the donated blue & white G3

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
The machine arrived on Friday. Turns out it has 192MB of RAM, not 256. Oh darn. :) It's sawing through a compile of XFree86 4.0.1Z right now. I'll let everyone know the margin by which it beats my 56MB 7200/90. I'd like to publicly thank the donor, M Carling. Dan, are you *sure* we don't nee

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2. There's no point wasting > your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug fixes. MANIFEST.m68k for this version is on http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/ I th

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Maydell
Branden Robinson wrote: >On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:09:51PM +, Peter Maydell wrote: >> # remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86 >> This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built >> in the first place and therefore no symlink was created. > >That's bad. >> [Would

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2. There's no point wasting > > your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug > > fixes. > MANIFEST.m68k for this version

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well. I need to know where the pcidata module is defined. Shouldnt it be enough to just jet it return silently? There i

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well. I need to know > where the pcidata module is defined. xc/programs/Xserve

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > > Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well.

Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Dear all, I've recently switched to a Debian system and I am wondering how to track the XFree86 CVS version without wreaking havoc with the packaging system. I'm very happy with my Potato (2.2r2) system, and I definitely don't want to upgrade libc. (Just taking the opportunity to say how happy I

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > > > Only so much as

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
* Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 10:30]: > First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on > a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. Thanks for the note about not needing CC:s. I never know when I see posts from new people. :) You can indeed build

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:37:58AM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 10:30]: > > First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on > > a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. > > You can indeed build Branden's packages for

Re: status on the donated blue & white G3

2000-12-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 11, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dan, are you *sure* we don't need an autobuilder? Not even for some >subsection of the archive? How about contrib? :) If needed, I can set up an autobuilder on the B50 I'm installing and which will become the new {ftp,http}.it.debian.org

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Raphael Deimel
> i saw on on tomshardware site that worked for 2.2 > is it essentialy the same for 2.4? i'm currently running xf4, kernel 2.4.0-test10 with NVidia's own accellerated drivers (hell, this is what graphics speed supposed to be ;) You could fetch the latest driver (0.9.5) and insert Mads Buus Jense

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-11 Thread Tor Slettnes
> "Peter" == Peter Maydell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> I tried putting together some patches based on a Peter> combination of the 3.x ARM patches and the 4.0 patches for Peter> other non-x86 architectures; it's now falling over with a Peter> compile error in elfloader.c.

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread dude
thanks! sounds like agreat idea, but im fairly new to this so editing the complier flags would be a bit too much for me (now) mind showing me what this would look like? g On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Raphael Deimel wrote: > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:49:40 +0100 > From: Raphael Deimel <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
If the Makefile was written well, it will be simple. Open the Makefile with your favorite editor (vim is mine! :) and look for lines similar to -DSOMETHING. Add the -DKERNEL_2_3 bit to this line. Or, if there isn't something that looks right, see if there is a CCFLAGS line -- and add the -DKERNEL_

Re: debian-changelog-mode

2000-12-11 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hm. I thought I had cut and pasted it from dpkg -s dpkg-dev. I guess > I must be wrong, or else Branden is really really evil, evil enough to > put special "misspell the DPL's name" hooks in the X selection code. That is a beautiful idea. Overfiend: "CuLUs"!! -- see

[mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: X upgrade policy Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:05:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [

[kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Does anyone know which driver the TurboGX uses? - Forwarded message from Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xserver-xsun drivers Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:29:55 -0800 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PRO

[bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xfree86 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:36:44 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I

[harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X server become a zombie process. - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: gdm and kdm can't start X Date: Mon,

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Second, I'm not sure what you mean by ``I have a g400, not a v3'' -- last time I ran the dexter

Re: [bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Romain, /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. Details in the debian-x archive -- I am tired of typing them. :) * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 19:46]: > - Forwarded message from Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file affect gdm or kdm? * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 19:46]: > Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X > server become a zombie process. > > - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > >

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Shagam
Not to mention that the G400 driver for XFree 4 has 3D acceleration as well. It's currently kinda broken (stencils don't work at all (not even in software fallback - they're borked), and there are some pretty icky persistent texturing bugs, but it's usable. Just not very. Personally, I'm annoyed

Re: [bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread dude
you need to reconfigure xserver-common i believe you cant 'apt-get --reconfigure xserver-common' and select 'anybbody' to starts windows. if that is wrong go to irc.debian.org room: #debian and look at the topic which will give you the answer ~ On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrote

status on the donated blue & white G3

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
The machine arrived on Friday. Turns out it has 192MB of RAM, not 256. Oh darn. :) It's sawing through a compile of XFree86 4.0.1Z right now. I'll let everyone know the margin by which it beats my 56MB 7200/90. I'd like to publicly thank the donor, M Carling. Dan, are you *sure* we don't ne

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2. There's no point wasting > your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug fixes. MANIFEST.m68k for this version is on http://people.debian.org/~cts/x4.0/ I t

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-11 Thread Peter Maydell
Branden Robinson wrote: >On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 06:09:51PM +, Peter Maydell wrote: >> # remove the upstream symlink X -> XFree86 >> This symlink does not exist because the XFree86 server binary was not built >> in the first place and therefore no symlink was created. > >That's bad. >> [Would

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 07, 2000 at 04:11:57PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > Please wait until you see source for 10pre11v2. There's no point wasting > > your time building v1 since I'm committing some fairly important bug > > fixes. > MANIFEST.m68k for this versio

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well. I need to know where the pcidata module is defined. Shouldnt it be enough to just jet it return silently? There

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well. I need to know > where the pcidata module is defined. xc/programs/Xserv

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > > Only so much as to use "generic" pci code for m68k as well.

Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Juliusz Chroboczek
Dear all, I've recently switched to a Debian system and I am wondering how to track the XFree86 CVS version without wreaking havoc with the packaging system. I'm very happy with my Potato (2.2r2) system, and I definitely don't want to upgrade libc. (Just taking the opportunity to say how happy

Re: the continuing adventures of XFree86 4.0.1

2000-12-11 Thread Michel Dänzer
"Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 04:29:12PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > "Christian T. Steigies" wrote: > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 02:52:39PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > > Looked at xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bus yet? > > > Only so much a

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
* Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 10:30]: > First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on > a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. Thanks for the note about not needing CC:s. I never know when I see posts from new people. :) You can indeed buil

Re: Tracking XFree86 CVS on a Potato system

2000-12-11 Thread Charl P. Botha
On Mon, Dec 11, 2000 at 11:37:58AM -0800, Seth Arnold wrote: > * Juliusz Chroboczek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 10:30]: > > First of all, I'd like to know whether building Branden's packages on > > a Potato system yields a usable version of XFree86. > > You can indeed build Branden's packages for

Re: status on the donated blue & white G3

2000-12-11 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Dec 11, Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Dan, are you *sure* we don't need an autobuilder? Not even for some >subsection of the archive? How about contrib? :) If needed, I can set up an autobuilder on the B50 I'm installing and which will become the new {ftp,http}.it.debian.or

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Raphael Deimel
> i saw on on tomshardware site that worked for 2.2 > is it essentialy the same for 2.4? i'm currently running xf4, kernel 2.4.0-test10 with NVidia's own accellerated drivers (hell, this is what graphics speed supposed to be ;) You could fetch the latest driver (0.9.5) and insert Mads Buus Jens

Re: building xfree86 4 for debian/arm

2000-12-11 Thread Tor Slettnes
> "Peter" == Peter Maydell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Peter> I tried putting together some patches based on a Peter> combination of the 3.x ARM patches and the 4.0 patches for Peter> other non-x86 architectures; it's now falling over with a Peter> compile error in elfloader.c

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread dude
thanks! sounds like agreat idea, but im fairly new to this so editing the complier flags would be a bit too much for me (now) mind showing me what this would look like? g On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Raphael Deimel wrote: > Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 23:49:40 +0100 > From: Raphael Deimel <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: quick fix for building nvidia xfree4 drivers on kernel 2.4.0-test11

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
If the Makefile was written well, it will be simple. Open the Makefile with your favorite editor (vim is mine! :) and look for lines similar to -DSOMETHING. Add the -DKERNEL_2_3 bit to this line. Or, if there isn't something that looks right, see if there is a CCFLAGS line -- and add the -DKERNEL

Re: debian-changelog-mode

2000-12-11 Thread Joey Hess
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hm. I thought I had cut and pasted it from dpkg -s dpkg-dev. I guess > I must be wrong, or else Branden is really really evil, evil enough to > put special "misspell the DPL's name" hooks in the X selection code. That is a beautiful idea. Overfiend: "CuLUs"!! -- see

[mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: X upgrade policy Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 16:05:35 -0500 (EST) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To:

[kteague@sprocket.ddts.net: xserver-xsun drivers]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Does anyone know which driver the TurboGX uses? - Forwarded message from Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Ken Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xserver-xsun drivers Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 13:29:55 -0800 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PR

[bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
- Forwarded message from Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: xfree86 Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2000 17:36:44 +0100 (CET) Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi, I

[harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Branden Robinson
Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X server become a zombie process. - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: gdm and kdm can't start X Date: Mon

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running 3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. Second, I'm not sure what you mean by ``I have a g400, not a v3'' -- last time I ran the dexter

Re: [bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Romain, /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. Details in the debian-x archive -- I am tired of typing them. :) * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 19:46]: > - Forwarded message from Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - > > From: Romain Bossart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [harri@synopsys.COM: gdm and kdm can't start X]

2000-12-11 Thread Seth Arnold
Would the /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config file affect gdm or kdm? * Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [001211 19:46]: > Not sure what the problem is here; I don't know what would make the X > server become a zombie process. > > - Forwarded message from Harald Dunkel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - >

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Shagam
Not to mention that the G400 driver for XFree 4 has 3D acceleration as well. It's currently kinda broken (stencils don't work at all (not even in software fallback - they're borked), and there are some pretty icky persistent texturing bugs, but it's usable. Just not very. Personally, I'm annoye

Re: [bossart@deesse.univ-lemans.fr: xfree86]

2000-12-11 Thread dude
you need to reconfigure xserver-common i believe you cant 'apt-get --reconfigure xserver-common' and select 'anybbody' to starts windows. if that is wrong go to irc.debian.org room: #debian and look at the topic which will give you the answer ~ On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Branden Robinson wrot

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Joshua Shagam wrote: >It would be nice if the XFree 4 packages had a 'Conflicts: utah-glx' in it, >but as has been said already, you ARE running Debian *usntable*, and you >reap what you sow in that regard... don't take it out on Branden, please. I told the X people months a

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II
On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: >Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While >their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running >3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.0.1 has a *much* easier GL system. This is about poor forethought. I complained month

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Joshua Shagam
On Tue, Dec 12, 2000 at 02:38:06AM -0500, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > On Mon, 11 Dec 2000, Seth Arnold wrote: > > >Terry, a few quick comments -- first, Utah-glx is in the past. While > >their work may have been nifty at one point, and for people running > >3.3.x perhaps necessary, XF 4.

Re: [mongoose@users.sourceforge.net: X upgrade policy]

2000-12-11 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Tue, 12 Dec 2000, Terry 'Mongoose' Hendrix II wrote: > I told the X people months ago not to force out utah - that's why I'm > pissed off. An overnight upgrade of gtk shouldn't break my x server. I > also think hiding behind the debian stand-by "it's not even supposed to > work" is why pack