Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:43:24AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:08, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > > > BuildGLXLibrary is true. > > > > Y

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 11:43:24AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:08, Branden Robinson wrote: > > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > > > BuildGLXLibrary is true. > > > > Y

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:08, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > > BuildGLXLibrary is true. > > Yup, that's busted. I guess we can live with glu.h getting installed unnece

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:10, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, > > > and get to work. > > > > As stated be

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:08, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > > BuildGLXLibrary is true. > > Yup, that's busted. I guess we can live with glu.h getting installed unnece

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Wed, 2003-06-25 at 07:10, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, > > > and get to work. > > > > As stated be

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: >> > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, >> > > and g

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:42:42PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > So your plan is to remove them, right? As such, yes. > Personally I would rather prefer to keep them in place, manly because I am > paranoid and due to the complexity of the packages one check more (that is > already in pla

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 02:52:58AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > I'll research waht kinds of change will be needed to use > --list-missing and to drop MANIFEST check mechanism. I think all we need is a kind of "ANTI-MANIFEST" ;-) which contains the output of dh_install --list-missing from a kn

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, > > and get to work. > > As stated before, I'm ready to do the work. But I'd like to have at > least a

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-25 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > BuildGLXLibrary is true. Yup, that's busted. > I meant to stress the need, and that it could be any package providing > libglu-dev, should there ever be a reasonabl

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: >> > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: >> > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, >> > > and g

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Jun 24, 2003 at 07:42:42PM +0200, Fabio Massimo Di Nitto wrote: > So your plan is to remove them, right? As such, yes. > Personally I would rather prefer to keep them in place, manly because I am > paranoid and due to the complexity of the packages one check more (that is > already in pla

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 02:52:58AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > I'll research waht kinds of change will be needed to use > --list-missing and to drop MANIFEST check mechanism. I think all we need is a kind of "ANTI-MANIFEST" ;-) which contains the output of dh_install --list-missing from a kn

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:58AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I think we just need someone to establish a branch, roll up his sleeves, > > and get to work. > > As stated before, I'm ready to do the work. But I'd like to have at > least a

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Jun 25, 2003 at 01:02:32AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > Upstream is broken, it installs all GL/ headers if BuildGlxExt || > BuildGLXLibrary is true. Yup, that's busted. > I meant to stress the need, and that it could be any package providing > libglu-dev, should there ever be a reasonabl

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:01, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > IMO it's stupid to ship glu.h if we're not going to ship the rest of the > > > library. > > > > This change doesn't

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:12:25AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > > > > > 2) Build without BuildGLULibrary is not easy. > > > > > > Even if we decide libGLU will not ship, we need

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:09, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:12:25AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > > > > > 2) Build without BuildGLULibrary is not easy. > > > > > > Even if we decide libGLU will not ship, we need

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Tue, 2003-06-24 at 19:01, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > IMO it's stupid to ship glu.h if we're not going to ship the rest of the > > > library. > > > > This change doesn't

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: >> > 3) Purpose of MANIFESTs (I believe) are checking what kind of files >> > will be installed under debian/tmp, and *.install files or >> >

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi Branden, On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: > I originally came up with the MANIFEST thing as a means of doing what > you described, and also as a simplistic method of forcing the build to > fail if something didn't get built. > > These days, which dh_install's --list-missing flag,

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: >> > 2) Build without BuildGLULibrary is not easy. >> > >> > Even if we decide libGLU will not ship, we need some more changes >> > to solve problems >>

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:12:25AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that > > >> reason > > >> and others. > >

purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > 3) Purpose of MANIFESTs (I believe) are checking what kind of files > will be installed under debian/tmp, and *.install files or > something updates are needed. > > I think it is not good idea to edit MANIFESTs dir

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:34:23AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > This is not, as has been alleged, a coup, or a deliberate attempt to get > Branden out; nor anything more sinister than a misguided attempt to work > quickly while I had time, for which I apologize. I accept your apology. IMO package

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > IMO it's stupid to ship glu.h if we're not going to ship the rest of the > > library. > > This change doesn't ship it though, does it? Not in the package, but the fact that

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: >> > 3) Purpose of MANIFESTs (I believe) are checking what kind of files >> > will be installed under debian/tmp, and *.install files or >> >

Re: purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi Branden, On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Branden Robinson wrote: > I originally came up with the MANIFEST thing as a means of doing what > you described, and also as a simplistic method of forcing the build to > fail if something didn't get built. > > These days, which dh_install's --list-missing flag,

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Michel Dänzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: >> > 2) Build without BuildGLULibrary is not easy. >> > >> > Even if we decide libGLU will not ship, we need some more changes >> > to solve problems >>

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:12:25AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > >> I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that reason > > >> and others. > > > >

purpose of MANIFEST files (was: XSF revision 238)

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > 3) Purpose of MANIFESTs (I believe) are checking what kind of files > will be installed under debian/tmp, and *.install files or > something updates are needed. > > I think it is not good idea to edit MANIFESTs dir

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > IMO it's stupid to ship glu.h if we're not going to ship the rest of the > > library. > > This change doesn't ship it though, does it? Not in the package, but the fact that

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-24 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 07:34:23AM +1000, Daniel Stone wrote: > This is not, as has been alleged, a coup, or a deliberate attempt to get > Branden out; nor anything more sinister than a misguided attempt to work > quickly while I had time, for which I apologize. I accept your apology. IMO package

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that > >> reason > >> and others. > > I think there are three points of issue relat

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-23 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 04:35, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > > In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that reason > >> and others. > > I think there are three points of issue related it.

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > I think there are three points of issue related it. > > > 1) We will ship libGLU or not? > > Perhaps, YES. > I agree your point, currenlty We can not disable libGLU > cleanly (described one more problem on 2). >

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines >> Changed paths: >>M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jun 23, 2003 at 11:35:36AM +0900, ISHIKAWA Mutsumi wrote: > I think there are three points of issue related it. > > > 1) We will ship libGLU or not? > > Perhaps, YES. > I agree your point, currenlty We can not disable libGLU > cleanly (described one more problem on 2). >

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread ISHIKAWA Mutsumi
> In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines >> Changed paths: >>M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that > > reason > > and others. > > I'm looking forward to hearing them. > > Anyway, I agree that the commi

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines > Changed paths: >M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.alpha >M /branches/4.3.0/sid/

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Daniel Stone
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 10:12:44PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote: > On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > I object to killing off the X-forked GLU package at this point for that reason > > and others. > > I'm looking forward to hearing them. > > Anyway, I agree that the commit in

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Branden Robinson
rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines Changed paths: M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.alpha M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.hurd-i386 M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIF

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Sun, 2003-06-22 at 20:40, Branden Robinson wrote: > > rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines > Changed paths: >M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.alpha >M /branches/4.3.0/sid/

Re: XSF revision 238

2003-06-22 Thread Branden Robinson
rev 238: ishikawa | 2003-06-22 13:31:01 -0500 (Sun, 22 Jun 2003) | 8 lines Changed paths: M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.alpha M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIFEST.hurd-i386 M /branches/4.3.0/sid/debian/MANIF