On Thu, Dec 08, 2011 at 11:59:46AM +0200, Riku Saikkonen wrote:
> Reuben Thomas writes:
> >In other words, only xterm, kterm, mlterm and xvt would require a
> >patch, and in all cases it would be simply to reverse an existing
> >default setting.
>
> There are a few more terminals to add to your l
Reuben Thomas writes:
>In other words, only xterm, kterm, mlterm and xvt would require a
>patch, and in all cases it would be simply to reverse an existing
>default setting.
There are a few more terminals to add to your list of Meta-key
behaviors: the text consoles of the kernels supported by Deb
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> On 4 December 2011 17:55, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> Sounds sensible to me. I think the first step is to file a bug
>> against debian-policy with X-Debbugs-Cc pointing to the relevant
>> maintainers, so the new Right Thing To Do™ can be documented to avoid
>> future regress
On 4 December 2011 17:55, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Reuben Thomas wrote:
>
>> For xterm, kterm and xvt, the simplest thing to do would seem to be to
>> add a suitable default resource to the various /etc/X11/app-defaults
>> files. (xvt doesn't install such a file, but since it respects
>> resources
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> For xterm, kterm and xvt, the simplest thing to do would seem to be to
> add a suitable default resource to the various /etc/X11/app-defaults
> files. (xvt doesn't install such a file, but since it respects
> resources it presumably could.)
>
> For mlterm a simple patch to r
On 1 December 2011 22:58, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> 2. Proposing a patch for xterm bug#326200.
For xterm, kterm and xvt, the simplest thing to do would seem to be to
add a suitable default resource to the various /etc/X11/app-defaults
files. (xvt doesn't install such a file, but since it respect
On 2 December 2011 00:16, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Reuben Thomas wrote:
>
>> I don't actually use Debian at present; I use Ubuntu. That may limit
>> my usefulness. However, at the very least, I'd be happy to try doing
>> this:
>
> Thanks. Unless the Ubuntu maintainers want to make this change as
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> I don't actually use Debian at present; I use Ubuntu. That may limit
> my usefulness. However, at the very least, I'd be happy to try doing
> this:
Thanks. Unless the Ubuntu maintainers want to make this change as a
differentiating feature instead of pushing it in Debian (
On 1 December 2011 22:58, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Riku Saikkonen wrote:
>
>> I suppose this clearly is not something that should be changed while
>> in a freeze, especially since xterm in Debian has had the current
>> behaviour for so many years. But perhaps it would be possible to
Hi again,
Riku Saikkonen wrote:
> I suppose this clearly is not something that should be changed while
> in a freeze, especially since xterm in Debian has had the current
> behaviour for so many years. But perhaps it would be possible to
> coordinate a consistent behaviour for all the terminals i
(I'm just a long-time xterm user who follows the Debian bug reports
every now and then...)
Reuben Thomas writes:
>On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
[about "*eightBitInput: true" being the default]
>> It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (or equivalents in UTF-8) entered
>> without d
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Riku Saikkonen wrote:
(I'm just a long-time xterm user who follows the Debian bug reports
every now and then...)
Reuben Thomas writes:
On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
[about "*eightBitInput: true" being the default]
It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (o
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
On 7 November 2010 16:52, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (or equivalents in UTF-8) entered
without dead-keys, etc.
Under what condi
On 7 November 2010 16:52, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
>
>> On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (or equivalents in UTF-8) entered
>>> without dead-keys, etc.
>>
>> Under what conditions? If I set my keyboar
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
Why do some users want it the other way? I'm still looking for a
reason (other than the one than Jonathan quoted about bash, which
It's a way of getting the ISO-
On 6 November 2010 17:00, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
>
>> Why do some users want it the other way? I'm still looking for a
>> reason (other than the one than Jonathan quoted about bash, which
>
> It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (or equivalents in UTF-8) en
On Sun, 7 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
On 6 November 2010 17:14, Thomas Dickey wrote:
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
users be able to understand which setting they are likely to want, but
also stop complaining about the default (as I am doing!). I'm also
interested to know why th
On 6 November 2010 17:14, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
>
>> users be able to understand which setting they are likely to want, but
>> also stop complaining about the default (as I am doing!). I'm also
>> interested to know why this is the default in xterm, but no
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
users be able to understand which setting they are likely to want, but
also stop complaining about the default (as I am doing!). I'm also
interested to know why this is the default in xterm, but not in
gnome-terminal, konsole or unicode-rxvt. Is it the de
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Reuben Thomas wrote:
Why do some users want it the other way? I'm still looking for a
reason (other than the one than Jonathan quoted about bash, which
It's a way of getting the ISO-8859-1 (or equivalents in UTF-8) entered
without dead-keys, etc.
--
Thomas E. Dickey
http:/
On 5 November 2010 21:40, Thomas Dickey wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>
>> Reuben Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> What is wrong with patching xterm so that it defaults to eightBitInput
>>> being false rather than true, as other terminals do?
>>
>> Nothing I can see except that we are in
On Fri, 5 Nov 2010, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
Reuben Thomas wrote:
What is wrong with patching xterm so that it defaults to eightBitInput
being false rather than true, as other terminals do?
Nothing I can see except that we are in a freeze. It is probably
worth making the change anyway, but I
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> What is wrong with patching xterm so that it defaults to eightBitInput
> being false rather than true, as other terminals do?
Nothing I can see except that we are in a freeze. It is probably
worth making the change anyway, but I will leave that to the emacs
users.
Re inte
On 5 November 2010 18:30, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
[Sorry for not understanding what you were after.]
> Sven Joachim wrote:
>
> | Now after reading #574396 I see that with the xterm resources
> |
> | xterm*metaSendsEscape: false
> | xterm*eightBitInput: false
> |
> | and bash as shell meta-key com
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> On 3 November 2010 04:52:29 UTC, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> Could you give a pointer or elaborate on the ramifications (perhaps an
>> example)? Mostly I am curious.
>
> xterm(1) has the details.
Well, no, it doesn't. What I was looking for was:
"emacs -nw" and similar ap
On 3 November 2010 04:52:29 UTC, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>
> Could you give a pointer or elaborate on the ramifications (perhaps an
> example)? Mostly I am curious.
xterm(1) has the details.
> Probably in response to your request, at some point between xterm 204
> and 208 it learned an alt-sends
Hi,
Reuben Thomas wrote:
> Please set eightBitInput: false by default so that, as in konsole and
> gnome-terminal, Alt+letter combinations work in, for example, bash,
> out of the box.
Could you give a pointer or elaborate on the ramifications (perhaps an
example)? Mostly I am curious.
Probabl
Package: xterm
Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14
Severity: wishlist
Please set eightBitInput: false by default so that, as in konsole and
gnome-terminal, Alt+letter combinations work in, for example, bash,
out of the box.
(I hope this is the right place to attack this problem; I discussed it
with Thomas D
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