;d be possible to use
CSS underlining also.
What do you think?
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linked from the end of each page. Especially you should
be careful to set correct english preferences, and if it doesn't help,
your or your ISP's web proxy might cause problems, but the page I
mentioned should help in these issues.
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revision 1.8
diff -u -r1.8 check_trans.pl
--- check_trans.pl 2000/07/09 01:09:08 1.8
+++ check_trans.pl 2000/07/13 08:42:46
@@ -2,6 +2,12 @@
# This is GPL'ed code, copyright 1998 Paolo Molaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>.
+# 2000-07-06 Tommi Vainikainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+
+# I modifie
Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A;
Severity: normal
Quote from the end of the page
http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian.html>:
"Dselect (the front end to Debian's packaging system) is confusing to
learn." This is an active area of work. It is hoped that the new
package manager, apt, will be
Package: www.debian.org
Version: N/A;
Severity: normal
I don't know if there is any link to this page (w.d.o/2.0/) but maybe
it should be fixed anyway. In first chapter, there is link to slink,
but link should point to "../releases/slink/", not "../slink/".
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Debian Release:
at it's a few links deep and not
> many people find it...
w.d.o/ -> Developers' Corner -> "Debian web site pages" in
Miscellaneous in main area of the page, not in right panel
-> using cvs
Second link is harders to find, it really requires you to read the
page. :)
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uth would be user-friendly?
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any notice in bug report logs.
BTW Does some logging system support some special syntax for closing
w.d.o bugs, as it is with packages? (Adding "closes #" to
ChangeLog closes given bug.)
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because there is that
strange "%body" text? (I only "make"d english and finnish languages,
and my www server (boa) doesn't support content-negotiation, sorry.)
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ser development. Now there is chicken and egg problem with png
support. Most browser can show pngs without transparency and this is
enough for most people. (And of course there is ALT attribute for
browser not supporting pngs.)
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ake web pages, you can just touch people.names and it will be
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o keep
those files up to date.
[1] Only I've compared is Makefiles in finnish subdir.
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LANG = (unset)
are supported and installed on your system.
perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").
08/14/00
$ LC_TIME=fi_FI perl time.pl
14.08.2000
$
And also to note, even this is suboptimal, I prefer "14. elokuuta
2000" to "14.08.2000"
On Fri, 25 Aug 2000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 03:34:01PM +0300, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> At least I would like to get release date formatted per language
>> basis. As a finnish speaker, it would be much nicer to have
>> "14. eloku
ww-server which are not
specifically up to date with this new translated version.
I hope you understood what I meant. Of course, I don't know if this
would work. It would add responbilities to english www-maintainers.
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[2] At least for me... ;-)
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> On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 11:28:29PM +0200, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> Now Debian front page looks bad[1] with new rounded boxes, because
>> I've told Netscape my preferred background color.
>
> Can you please elaborate how
If you look at front page in finnish (by choosing link below of the
page), you will notice (even without understanding finnish) that news
are shown incorrectly. Same news item is listed four times and no
other news items are in the front page. Can somebody fix this?
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lity)
improvement.
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ltough that's not useful nor needed.
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posting, therefore I'm now re-sending this with no words
"(un)subscribe" in subject, as it really looks like it was the reason.
(I first got "confirmation request" as a reply for my mail...)
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this needs to be forced, because the pseudo-packages.description list
-# may change any time
-pseudo-packages.$(LANGUAGE).html: FORCE
-
-FORCE:
+pseudo-packages.$(LANGUAGE).html: pseudo-packages.description
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On Mon, 28 May 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 07:11:29PM +0300, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> Is there really reasons for this kind of force rebuilds as seen in
>> Bugs/Makefile? Isn't make especially designed for this kind of
>> dependencie
Look yourself, most of the links in box on the left are missing.
Can somebody force rebuild of some files, at least index page.
Touching english/template/debian/mainpage.wml and then running make is
probably what is needed. (This is only my guess.)
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-#
# Hacked on lots by Greg A. Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+# Conflict check by Charles M. Hannum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
+# Merged Hannum's conflict checks with RCS Id checking by Tommi
+# Vainikainen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
#
# Configurable
I fixed
> earlier today). I think you need to allow for the filename or the
> version number to appear at the end of the line.
That's true, I just copied/merged the code... :-)
But I think removing dollar signs from the end of lines is enough good
solution.
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Left box's link to Developer's Corner would be
enough then.
IMHO, good detail in your's proposition is that it doesn't have blue
box around contact information, plain white is better because it
doesn't grab readers attention.
Without going to details in lay out such as logo's place, I liked your
proposition. Changes are useful and my guess is that usability
improves in those.
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nice. :-)
Test your browsers at
http://metatron.tky.hut.fi/~tvainika/pngtest/>.
When manually trying change color of transparent area, useful software
is pngcheck, which isn't packaged (at least I didn't found), but is
only one C file, and not too hard to compile.. :-)
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/apps/pngcheck.html>
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old version 1.130 (one before joy's commit) of
vendors.CD, those files are similar where only changes are new data.)
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languages, shouldn't it remove current language from
that list, at least other pages do that.
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ebian Weekly News:]
+[SV:Debian Weekly News:]
+[TR:Debian Weekly News:]
+[ZH:Debian Weekly News:]
+
+#use wml::debian::template title=" - <:=&spokendate('$(PUBDATE)'):>$(PAGENAME)" NOHOMELINK="yes" BARETITLE="yes" NOCOMMENTS="yes" SUMMARY="$(SUMMARY)"
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etter only to include link to
distrib/vendors from contact page as vendors page also mentions needed
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ot to escape the $ characters :)
That's true, but I wasn't enough fast to press C-c, so I couldn't fix
that anymore, and so I left it as it was, because IIRC there is no way
to fix log messages with CVS. But it is so obvious what happened as
you instantly understood what was going on, so there is no need to do
anything with that. :-)
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e happily does have an sitemap.*.gif. :-)
(I already made sitemap.fi.gif, but should I really commit that as
there is not even english original yet in CVS?)
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ourse possible to reorder quick
links to countries manually and such way move it bit towards The Real
Thing. :-)
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hat lest they want to feel my wrath ;)
I was mostly referring to you, as I though maybe in some day you will
want to uncomment that line. Altought I don't know if that is before
or after transition to PNGs...
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">$m\n:]
+ [$l:http://www.$mirrors_lang->{$l}->{$m}.debian.org\">$m\n:]
}
}
-
+\
# http://www.at.debian.org";>
# http://www.au.debian.org";>
# http://www.bg.debian.org";>
@@ -103,7 +105,7 @@
# http://www.tr.debian.org";>
# http://www.uk.debian.org";>
## \/ http://www.us.debian.org";>
- http://www.debian.org"; selected>www.debian.org
+http://www.debian.org"; selected>www.debian.org
>
But of course, applying this also make big rebuild again.
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did the change because
mirrors missing sponsor image were not looking good, left blue box was
too wide because of Netscape rendering alt text instead of image.
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> Currently "Debian Weekly News" appears in title of every page under
>> News/weekly in it's original english form. Is it decided that it
>> is proper name and shouldn't be
with useless GIFs. :-)
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t available". Can some one remove
those kind of "translations", so that server will send me english
ones or is there something evil happening so it won't be easy?
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er languages?
My checkout consist only english and finnish, that's the reason.
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, swedish and english version. I didn't
bother to check the rest.
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On Thu, 21 Jun 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2001 at 01:18:21AM +0300, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> Order is random in finnish pages too. If I do local build, order
>> is correct at least in finnish, swedish and english version. I
>> didn't bother to
r ISP's proxy's) problem.
Please read http://www.uk.debian.org/intro/cn.en.html> and
contact again if problem doesn't disappear.
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ieve those can
break anything, but of course it is better to watch out.
And one thing about slices, please put catalan in alphabetical
(english is exception) place when others are in alphabetical order
too. In some of tags slices are not in alphabetical order, but mostly
should be, and in the future propably all of them should be.
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lly from the UK :-)
Most propably your problem. Have you read
http://www.uk.debian.org/intro/cn.en.html>?
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assume this is a bug.
Most probably:
It's not a bug, it is a feature. You have misconfigured your browser.
Please read http://www.uk.debian.org/intro/cn.en.html>.
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is publicly
available via CVS, you can read instructions at
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/>. Instructions are, of
course, designed for Debian developers, who are building Debian's web
site, but there should be all information available you need too.
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of the web site ;) )
Hmm, maybe start with reverting that logo change, old penguin (or
whatever) was more porn than that stupid whirl. ;-)
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Opmerking: Het origineel is recenter dan de vertaling."
>
> Could this be changed?
I ("finnish") changed this. This is just normal template files,
webwml/english/template/debian/translation-check.wml.
Better long term solution is to update those outdated webpages. :-)
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> http://www.linux-laptop.net/
> so I guess it would be best to change the link on the Debian page.
Thank you for your info.
I've updated url in CVS now, it takes some hours until website is
rebuilt and some more hours to get changes to mirrors.
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It seems website has not been rebuilt in last days.
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/wml_run.log> is last modified
10th August. Pretty old I think. I noticed the problem when new
security advisories (dsa-068 and dsa-069) didn't pop up in website.
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idn't pop up in
> website.
Hmm, I just checked my calendar, I was living like next week already. :-)
So there is nothing wrong with that build log, but still those
advisories aren't there. (Usually those are there after I've slept
one night.)
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is link now, so that all translations
should now link to mysql.com instead of .org.
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nglish pages?
That script does refer english as always up to date, ie. doesn't
bother to really check status of english files.
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doing it to do it. :)
Just curious, but can WML automatically add those tags to html if
wml source file doesn't contain those? That would be nicest way to
get strict xhtml.
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On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:41:57PM +0300, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> As this page is only translation of why_debian.en.html, which
>> points to mysql.com I've changed this link now, so that all
>> translations should now li
ors are stupid" and not
let them(or us) mess things?
It just so simple that you cannot assume people can read manuals and
follow those. But as a quick fix, I'm going to add those headers
files specified and also remove german/News/1998/19981124, because
original for that file no longer exists.
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On Tue, 2 Oct 2001, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Now that there is a comprehensive web interface[1] to the
> automatic package building system, we should remove the existing
> page[2] and change the link in the developers' corner to point to
> the new site.
Done, in every lan
before rest of
crypt()ed password should be easy way to disable account.
Closing account until someone asks it for back is very easy way to get
knowing who is using account and make sure (s)he does things right.
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Jay Treacy
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t) and
said go for it, so I changed it that way. If you want to work on
better way, such as listing other members as "officers" and last two
as "secretaries", would that be good solution? (This is the way it's
said in security/faq.wml.)
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misc/Artistic.html
Fixed in CVS. Changes should be visible after next build, that means
6-12 hours IIRC.
Thanks for noticing us.
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It seems that newest news item (hispalinux congress) is not yet
visible, altough there has already been new build?
But at least one crical bug seems to be somewhere, as front page in
Finnish shows no news items. Same seems to be true for German too.
Same problem is in News/2001 page.
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text/vnd.viewcvs-markup&cvsroot=webwml>
It would help much if you can provide something ready, such as full
chapters of text. Then people can just format it as wml and commit.
(Of course best is wml as it is not so much more than plain text but
as fully ready for going to CVS.)
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For example http://www.de.debian.org/devel/website/stats/> says
"last update Dec 4".
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at's a great idea!
Hi,
what is the status of this? I was about to update translation, but when
checking the links, I noticed that the old one works and after your
changes links in English pages are broken. Is there something still
ongoing, or should the test changes be reverted?
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er with author information per page, I think we should add e.g.
copyright.txt to CVS root directory which contains information per
author, which relicensing are fine, or possible copyright transfer to
SPI.
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97, but Cool URIs don't change
(http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI).
Because this is a link internal to the Debian's website, the best
solution IMHO would be creating a redirect page
http://www.debian.org/doc/prospective-packages.html which would redirect
to http://www.debian.org/d
It seems that translation statistics are not rebuilt for last few
days. No need to tell how useful those pages are for translators...
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wants to change that account, that's fine for me, just send me new
password, but it doesn't make a big difference.
> Btw., I'm not sure if you are subscribed yet to debian-www
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(code2language($lang))};
} else {
$lang = code2language($lang) or return qq();
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and it works fine, but I'm using wml from
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t
should not impact translations, because it is language dependant what
quote characters are used. Of course because of some restrictions in
charsets, it is not always possible to use correct quote characters...
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And everybody, feel free to bump
finnish version in this kind of cases when you might think that in
ideal world it should not affect translations. Here in Finland I'm
living in an /almost/ ideal world... :-)
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g stylesheets a little with Debian's web
pages. Maybe some of you want to comment on that too. At the address
http://jt3-172.tky.hut.fi/debianwww/index_css> the logo and
mirror selection are layed out with very simple css instead of one
table, which is currently used.
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: important
Some website mirrors are not updated after compromise. Website
mirrors in Denmark (www.dk.d.o), Russia (www.ru.d.o) and Brazil
(www.br.d.o) are not updated after compromise.
Also from other mirrors, China (cn), Indonesia (id), Hong Kong (hk)
and South
and this of cource isn't best way.
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es! Any DD
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On 2004-01-30T16:13:04+0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I was wondering who i could send updated info to about our shop,
> which distributes debian cd's..
Please send your updated info to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ie. same
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n the git repository? Maybe this stuff should be documented
even on the website, as there is already info on using CVS
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/ >.
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POT files are committed to repository. As those are
autogenerated, many other projects have convention that those are not in
repository and also .po files are only updated by translators, who
generate POT files on the fly. I think this kind of convention is
better, but only if there is not too mu
Frank Lichtenheld <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Sat, Oct 13, 2007 at 10:29:57AM +0300, Tommi Vainikainen wrote:
>> First, there is charset problems. If you open http://p.d.o/sid/, it
>> contains something like this:
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously this
s distributed "advanced" version control system, then Bazaar
is way to go, because of the user interface is enough similar to CVS and
Subversion.
Also by switching to Subversion, people can make their own choice: there
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o it).
Please tell us publicly if you have any long-term intentions, and I can
also add your translations to CVS if you send those to me even if I
don't probably understand most of the words. :)
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> And also, what are the most important pages ?
http://www.debian.org/devel/website/translation_hints
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full checkout takes about 350 MB of disk space),
you will get .wml files (which are almost like HTML files but without
extra cruft from templates). Translations can be committed only as .wml
files because that is the way how Debian's website works.
Also it is much easier to commit your cha
s to be quite much
differences on how to use right-to-left in layout elements.
Does anyone know if this layout difference between Farsi and Arabic is
intended or not?
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ebrew/po/others.he.po
I committed organization.he.po and others.he.po, but in your mail you
had attached bugs.he.po instead of countries.he.po.
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>>I committed organization.he.po and others.he.po, but in your mail you
>>had attached bugs.he.po instead of countries.he.po
>
> sorry about that.
No problem. Committed countries too now.
It's nice to see prog
have this text-align setting in debian.css if we assume
CSS compatibility in this respect. So is there a problem with some
browsers, or does anyone remember any background for this?
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> And more important, removing 'text-align: left' from html and body tags in
> main debian.css (this affects all languages!)
>
> Index: debian.css
> ===
le reading Hebrew text expect
English words to be? Now it renders as "debian#" because it's in middle
of Hebrew text. Should there be explicit dir=ltr tag around the channel
name so it would be rendered as #debian even being in the middle of
Hebrew text?
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n your version in title, but
only same text was translated in the page content beginning.
I re-applied those fixes now. See here:
http://cvs.debian.org/webwml/hebrew/intro/about.wml?r1=1.10&r2=1.11
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(not me) see that your diffs are good quality, because anyone with
account can (even accidentally) break many things on the website, and we
don't want to see that happen.
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http://www.debian.org/events/2008/0129-solutionslinux.fr.html
http://www.debian.org/consultants/kotarba.fr.html
Maybe we should migrate to UTF-8 here too...
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