On Mon, Apr 05, 1999 at 01:42:33PM -0400, James A. Treacy wrote:
> Done. If someone wants to save me time and provide me with a list of valid
> chars in an email address I'd appreciate it.
According to RFC 822, almost everything is valid. Some must be quoted,
though.
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I'm willing to coordinate translation of the Debian WWW pages to Finnish.
I already have two probable volunteers to help me in the effort.
I've read the translation HOWTO and already translated the common stuff
(on my own machine). How do I proceed from here?
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How are the images generated? What should I use to generate translated
images?
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On Sat, Apr 24, 1999 at 07:35:56PM -0600, Anthony Fok wrote:
> Gimp or Photoshop or whatever you like. :-)
I was hoping for a command I could use like this:
echo Koti | txt2gif > home.fi.gif
;-)
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pdate and update it manually occasionally.
This will just make it harder to revise translations. Do it, if you must,
but I don't like either option.
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n must not be hardcoded.
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shorrors/
Browsers that don't support CSS will show the document in the default style.
If good authoring practice has been used, the content is perfectly legible.
This is what happens when CSS support is turned off in the supporting
browsers, too.
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On Sun, Jul 11, 1999 at 09:17:25AM -0700, Debian WWW CVS wrote:
> Modified files:
> . : ChangeLog signal.c
>
> Log message:
> Remove hack in signal.c for arm architecture
Why does every commit message have this?
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[FI:Intia:]\
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"... memory leaks are quite acceptable in many applications ..."
(Bjarne Stroustrup, The Design and Evolution of C++, page 220)
It seems that changing organization.tags or .data will not cause
the organization page to be rebuilt. It should, IMHO; there seem
to be some dependencies missing.
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"... memory leaks are quite acceptable in
On Fri, Aug 06, 1999 at 10:38:52PM +0200, peter karlsson wrote:
> Perhaps an overview page, and then a page for each language? That way, one
> can have more informative entries, not having to worry about that the page
> gets large.
This would be my preferred choice.
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NG}{chinese} :> constructs).
> >
> Separated out and committed to CVS.
The datafile now contains
The Debian Language Pages
which should be available for translation.
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"... memory leaks are quite accep
On Tue, Sep 07, 1999 at 08:23:00PM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
> Here's the full list of all I've been told about so far. Starred items are
> known to be used outside Debian.
> * sex
> publib
If you star sex, you should star publib too - IIRC the former needs
latter to build.
e description
is relevant to the rest of the text. Using ALT="[swirl]" is evil -
almost as evil as the infamous ALT="[Company Logo]".
The swirl is a decoration and carries no information. Hence the alt
attribute should be empty.
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go, not the string "swirl".
> Still, I think having [swirl] there would be good. People using lynx would
> at least wonder what this "swirl" is, and download the Logo and view it
> later.
People using lynx will just get irritated. "[swirl]" adds no infor
he logo page.
If you're not, alt="[swirl]" will just be an annoyance on all the
other pages.
> because there might be some important or intersting information on it.
What important or interesting information does a logo carry that is relevant
to all Debian pages?
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s I'm starting to rant about how the web should be.
The short version: "HTML - as we know it - sucks!" ;-)
> I'd say let's just drop this pointless discussion and let the people who are
> editing those pages do what they think it's best.
Pointless? You do have a
It is NOT ok in my book, period.
This is according to the HTML 4.0 specification, which the Debian WWW
pages claim to follow. The specification actually explicitly mentions
one case where the alt attribute should be empty.
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translate that variable, but the
resulting Finnish is far from idiomatic then. Other languages may have
more severe problems.
(This is BTW what I tried to say in the boot-floppies bug, too.)
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ush mirrors) is finished around
midnight UTC. The mirroring may take more time than that, but I don't
know about that.
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""
(John Cage)
ong with using UTF-8?
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(John Cage)
TF-8; conversion from any other encoding is automizable
so the daily make (or the wml program) can do it.
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""
(John Cage)
e anything, as we'd have the same problem with the
ALT attribute for the images.
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(John Cage)
ranslated the page used a WYSIWYG html editor and
Uhh... the source is wml, not html. How did this volunteer get the
editor working with the source?
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(John Cage)
It looks like the Finnish main page has not rebuilt since last Wed.
Anybody know why (the CVS contains a fix for a rather severe problem
with the page)?
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On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 08:41:24PM +0100, Marcin Owsiany wrote:
> do I really need to keep this and the .doctype file?
No.
> Or is it just something that some sgml editor has left?
That "sgml editor" is Emacs, my friend ;-)
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onal Grudge (tm) for Finns :-)
> Mienkylä (sp?)
Do you mean "Meän kieli" (which sounds to a Finn as a funny way of saying
"our language")?
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I moved IRL on May 2, 2000.
re/common-licenses/BSD file, notice how
> there's no `advertising clause'.
What do you then call the non-modified BSD license, which inded does exist?
Original BSD?
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nged, and the old version still is DFSG free.
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Hi,
I have a member of the Finnish translation team to whom I'd like to give
CVS write access. He is not a Debian developer, however, and the pserver
"finnish" account is AFAIK not existent anymore.
How do we proceed?
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On 2827T151759-0700, Debian WWW CVS wrote:
> CVSROOT: /cvs/webwml
> Module name: webwml
> Changes by: dutch 00/08/27 15:17:59
>
> Added files:
> dutch : index.nl.html
>
> Log message:
> Is this the way?
No. Just commit the wml file.
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Hypertekstivisionääri Ted Nelson luennoi Jyväskylässä 29.-31.8.
Lisätietoja saa minulta.
On 2924T123229+0200, Josip Rodin wrote:
> So anyway, take a look at it and comment, please.
First impression: it's ok, even likable, but where's the logo?
Does the intro box have to be black on white?
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an to almost hurt my eyes.
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s.
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that is available.
I'd even imagine using it would help it spread :-)
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onfigured to use
apt for this.)
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page.
>
> Anyone have any idea what's happening here?
Works fine here.
BTW, [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the list for Debian website problems.
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Keep the Deja Archive Alive!
h
th a conjunction.
The validity of this criticism is, however, highly debatable.
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ng. It's probably buried in some doc on cgi
> scripts.
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/interact/forms.html#form-content-type
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http://groups.google.com/
Thank you to all who cared.
rators and users of other distributions
who want to find out for example where one can find the eximconfig
utility source.
I know, this is nontrivial. But it *is* a nice wish.
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http://g
kage page accomplish the goal?
> It is much simpler and would be trivial to add.
That is a good idea but it's not what was asked for. I and Jouko were
talking about searching in the contents, rather like doing a grep on
the Contents files except that this would be for the source.
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rbatim as "The Hurd" or we
translate it, most likely by just adapting it to the Finnish structure as
"Hurd", where the definite article is implied (Finnish has no explicit
articles). Which one is chosen is really just a matter of style and
consistency.
Anything else would
atim or adapt it to their
local conventions. Such a guideline would not be specific to the Hurd.
Yes, in English it's the Hurd. Like in English one has the Beatles.
When the Beatles are referred to in Finnish, they are usually called
"Beatles", without any articles.
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> would need to make some adjustments to view the site properly. Why don't we do
> that? Exactly.
There is a difference: the one is a standard, the other is not.
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ction actually listed anywhere.
It is listed in the master overrides, and in the Packages files. And,
because of that, in dselect. Is that enough?
About the packages.d.o problem, it is a bug.
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t it?
There is no db.debian.org pseudo-package and there will not be one.
See bug #67907.
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t have many volunteers, and
often the quality of output from those that do volunteer is so low that
I have to redo the translation myself.
I'll see what I can do about the most outdated pages.
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On 20020830T075503+0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> > I have never committed UTF-8 wml files. "&;" expression is
> > written in ASCII
> [...]
>
> and this is also UTF-8.
How so?
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some time and has been done that job well.
Somebody should probably remove me from the webwml group.
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: normal
I went to look at the new packages.d.o site, and eventually found myself
looking at
http://packages.debian.org/sid/utils/3ddesktop
Now, it says
Package: 3ddesktop (0.2.9-6) [gnuab]
My question was, "what's gnuab"? Is it a typo for something? Well,
ly, my darcs-monitor package does have a Homepage field in
the deb. The reason is, I'm using an XBS-Homepage header (as I started
using it before dpkg started supporting the header). Perhaps dpkg
doesn't copy the (XBS-less) header to the deb?
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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: wishlist
I just run across http://www.debian.org/devel/leader . Nice :)
It would be useful IMHO if that page listed all previous leaders, and
perhaps short blurbs of each.
If necessary, I can come up with an initial version of the text.
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