Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 06:02:00PM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit : > On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Charles Plessy wrote: > > Call me lazy, but it is two clicks away compared to just pasting the > > error message in the Google search box which is the default on the > > browsers distributed by Debian. > > [..

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, Charles Plessy wrote: > Call me lazy, but it is two clicks away compared to just pasting the > error message in the Google search box which is the default on the > browsers distributed by Debian. [...] Google has already indexed mirrors of the BTS. Don Armstrong -- The st

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:32:42AM -0800, Don Armstrong a écrit : > > There are mirrors of the BTS which do not disallow indexing. > > Furthermore, see http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi > Hi Don, Call me lazy, but it is two clicks away compared to just pasting the error message in the

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:05:29AM +, MJ Ray a écrit : > > > The BTS contents are indexed and archived on Google's own site > > I would love to, but: There are mirrors of the BTS which do not disallow indexing. Furthermore, see http://bugs.debia

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 13 Dec 2007, Santiago Vila wrote: > What we could do is to restrict access to the web pages a little > bit. I've no problem with implementing a system to restrict the web pages when it looks like people are indexing them improperly. [We already do this to some extent manually, actually.]

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread MJ Ray
Charles Plessy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, sorry, because there was no "Re: " messages in the link MJ Ray sent, > I thought that answers to bugs were not archived. Is there an archives > that keeps threads somewhere ? [...] See the link I sent, particularly the "active older threads" in the r

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:38:41PM +0100, Simon Paillard a écrit : > > As explained earlier, the BTS content is not only on the BTS itself, but : > * is also sent on several debian mailing lists (indexed by google), > * is sent to other archiving systems like gname, nabble, mailgate, etc. etc. >

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Simon Paillard
On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 08:23:17PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:05:29AM +, MJ Ray a écrit : > > The BTS contents are indexed and archived on Google's own site > > I would love to, but: > > chouca???~???$ lynx --dump http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt > User-agent:

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 11:05:29AM +, MJ Ray a écrit : > The BTS contents are indexed and archived on Google's own site I would love to, but: chouca〔~〕$ lynx --dump http://bugs.debian.org/robots.txt User-agent: * Disallow: / http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=415305 Have a ni

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread MJ Ray
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The BTS is mainly email-based, but spammers get email addresses for free > by running spider programs on the WEB, which includes the BTS web pages, > as we are completely careless about putting email addresses there. > What we could do is to restrict acces

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-13 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Santiago Vila wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > > > If humans can read it, spammers can too. > > > > That's inaccurate. You are missing rule #3: Spammers are stupid. > > > > Spammers will only read what th

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-12 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, Santiago Vila wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > If humans can read it, spammers can too. > > That's inaccurate. You are missing rule #3: Spammers are stupid. > > Spammers will only read what they can read by mechanical means. And what parts of everyth

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-12 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 12 Dec 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > > If humans can read it, spammers can too. > > > > That's inaccurate. You are missing rule #3: Spammers are stupid. > > Where did you find that rule? It's classical. Go

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-12 Thread MJ Ray
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > > If humans can read it, spammers can too. > > That's inaccurate. You are missing rule #3: Spammers are stupid. Where did you find that rule? It seems to be a unjustified assumption. Assumption is the mother of

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-12 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Don Armstrong wrote: > If humans can read it, spammers can too. That's inaccurate. You are missing rule #3: Spammers are stupid. Spammers will only read what they can read by mechanical means. We would just have to make it difficult for them to obtain email addresses *so eas

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-11 Thread Don Armstrong
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, Santiago Vila wrote: > I think we can do better than doing nothing. Any method which obscures email addresses gets in the way of people dealing with bug reports and contacting people who are responsible for the bug reports. If humans can read it, spammers can too. See #63995

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, MJ Ray wrote: [...] > > In short, spam must be stopped at source. It is not possible to > > publish *and* to hide completely from spammers. If you are postmaster > > on a debian box, please make sure you have active anti-spam measure

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Tue, 11 Dec 2007, MJ Ray wrote: > Jean-Baptiste Rouquier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm a bit concerned that email adresses appear as plain text on > > http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=25 (and many > > other bug reports). > > I have two consecutive good spam filte

Re: displaying email adresses

2007-12-11 Thread MJ Ray
Jean-Baptiste Rouquier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm a bit concerned that email adresses appear as plain text on > http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=25 (and many > other bug reports). > I have two consecutive good spam filters, but nevertheless it is always > good not

displaying email adresses

2007-12-11 Thread Jean-Baptiste Rouquier
Hi, I'm a bit concerned that email adresses appear as plain text on http://bugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=25 (and many other bug reports). I have two consecutive good spam filters, but nevertheless it is always good not to facilitae the work of spamers. Thanks for your time