* Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-12-05 14:47]:
> Josip Rodin wrote:
>> Or maybe just keep the checked sites normal, and the rest in
>> ... (could not be verified, beware!).
>
> Only problem with is text mode browsers, which can generally at
> least display bold. Hmm, doing both doesn't look
Josip Rodin wrote:
> That would be much better, indeed!
>
> Or maybe just keep the checked sites normal, and the rest in
> ... (could not be verified, beware!).
Only problem with is text mode browsers, which can generally at
least display bold. Hmm, doing both doesn't look too bad though.
Here
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:30:32AM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> Joey Hess said:
> > One other thing I could do is change the intro text to something like..
> >
> >Mirrors listed below in bold have recently been verified to
> >contain at least CD image #1 for the i386 architecture. Mirrors
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:50:40AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> One other thing I could do is change the intro text to something like..
>
>Mirrors listed below in bold have recently been verified to
>contain at least CD image #1 for the i386 architecture. Mirrors not
>listed in bold may b
On Thu, Dec 05, 2002 at 09:27:15AM +0800, Andrew Shugg wrote:
> > (On related note, I need to check out that WebDAV module for Apache,
> > apparently it provides machine-parseable directory indices via HTTP.)
>
> It does, and it's great, but it'll only help you for mirror sites that
> are running
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 01:47:47PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Correction... if we're going to bother with a solution, then it should be
> > complete. Your program certainly can be considered an improved output, but
> > given the amount of false positives already noticed, it seems as if we're
> > s
Joey Hess said:
> One other thing I could do is change the intro text to something like..
>
>Mirrors listed below in bold have recently been verified to
>contain at least CD image #1 for the i386 architecture. Mirrors not
>listed in bold may be out of date or down.
>
> And list everyt
Josip Rodin said:
> (On related note, I need to check out that WebDAV module for Apache,
> apparently it provides machine-parseable directory indices via HTTP.)
It does, and it's great, but it'll only help you for mirror sites that
are running apache+mod_dav (or some other DAV-capable web server)
Josip Rodin wrote:
> Correction... if we're going to bother with a solution, then it should be
> complete. Your program certainly can be considered an improved output, but
> given the amount of false positives already noticed, it seems as if we're
> switching from one half-solution to another.
My
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:48:59AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> Why do you think that not pruning dead mirrors from the list is going to
> make the maintainers of those mirrors more liable to fix them.
I have come to realize that people sometimes simply don't know that their
mirrors are outdated/brok
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 05:46:15PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > And I certianly don't see the benefit of leaving things in the unusable
> > state they are when a much improved though admittedly not perfect list
> > is already available.
>
> I say if we're going to bother with it at all, let's fix
One other thing I could do is change the intro text to something like..
Mirrors listed below in bold have recently been verified to
contain at least CD image #1 for the i386 architecture. Mirrors not
listed in bold may be out of date or down.
And list everything, with the known-good ftp
Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:34:50AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > Listing http:// links when only ftp:// ones are verified.
> >
> > Well as I see it, we have three choices:
> >
> > 1. Leave things as they are, with dozens of known to be broken ftp and
> >http links.
> > 2.
On Wed, Dec 04, 2002 at 11:34:50AM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > Listing http:// links when only ftp:// ones are verified.
>
> Well as I see it, we have three choices:
>
> 1. Leave things as they are, with dozens of known to be broken ftp and
>http links.
> 2. At least make sure all the ftp lin
era eriksson wrote:
> I'm afraid your definition of "down" is a bit restrictive. I believe
> that e.g. mirrors.sunsite.dk will actually work for users in .dk but
> not allow access to others. I'm not sure if this is a happy solution,
> but the benefit of their mirroring anything at all is certainly
Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:22:01PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > > I hope the rest of my patch can be applied..
> > >
> > > I still wouldn't apply it because of the HTTP/FTP dependency.
> >
> > Don't know what you mean by that.
>
> Listing http:// links when only ftp:// ones
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 08:22:01PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > > I hope the rest of my patch can be applied..
> >
> > I still wouldn't apply it because of the HTTP/FTP dependency.
>
> Don't know what you mean by that.
Listing http:// links when only ftp:// ones are verified.
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On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 18:55:37 -0500, Joey Hess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> The fields are chosen so we can run this program every few days,
> and stop pointing
Josip Rodin wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:23:20PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > I hope the rest of my patch can be applied..
>
> I still wouldn't apply it because of the HTTP/FTP dependency.
Don't know what you mean by that.
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On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 02:15:01PM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote:
> > (Wouldn't it be great if the underlying issue was fixed and we could
> > simply email mirror maintainers telling them what to do and simply
> > delist their CD mirrors if they don't do that...)
>
> I think we should "actively enc
On Tue, Dec 03, 2002 at 12:33:55PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote:
> (Wouldn't it be great if the underlying issue was fixed and we could
> simply email mirror maintainers telling them what to do and simply
> delist their CD mirrors if they don't do that...)
I think we should "actively encourage" a unif
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:23:20PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> I hope the rest of my patch can be applied..
I still wouldn't apply it because of the HTTP/FTP dependency. It's
relatively safe for ftp.*.debian.org where we explicitely require both
to work at all times, but for other sites it's just ca
* Josip Rodin
| > > > Index: english/mirror/mirror_list.pl
| > > > ===
| > > > -open SRC, "<$mirror_source" ||
| > > > +open(SRC, "<$mirror_source") ||
| > >
| > > Easy on the formatting... :)
| >
| > That's not formatting, the ||
Andrew Shugg said:
> Josip Rodin said:
> > > > > Index: english/mirror/mirror_list.pl
> > > > > ===
> > > > > -open SRC, "<$mirror_source" ||
> > > > > +open(SRC, "<$mirror_source") ||
> > > >
> > > > Easy on the formatting... :)
> >
Josip Rodin said:
> > > > Index: english/mirror/mirror_list.pl
> > > > ===
> > > > -open SRC, "<$mirror_source" ||
> > > > +open(SRC, "<$mirror_source") ||
> > >
> > > Easy on the formatting... :)
> >
> > That's not formatting, the |
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 01:47:55PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > That's too optimistic, sadly. On a number of occasions I've seen people
> > suddenly "forget" to configure their Apaches after an upgrade or something.
> > It's usually that they only care about FTP for whatever reason and don't
> > bot
Joey Hess wrote:
> See the graph I posted to the gentoo thread. This page is a dead-end for
> anyone who wants a cd image via jigdo or from a mirror; all it lets you
> get currently is a unofficial netinst iso. Any yet it's linked
> prominently on the homepage. The patch aims to make it no longer b
Josip Rodin wrote:
> That's too optimistic, sadly. On a number of occasions I've seen people
> suddenly "forget" to configure their Apaches after an upgrade or something.
> It's usually that they only care about FTP for whatever reason and don't
> bother to check up on HTTP.
However, it's much har
> On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 06:55:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> And I've modified mirror_list.pl to use the new fields to generate a list
> that has only known-good mirrors on it. I took the approach of assuming
> that a site's http mirror is good if its ftp mirror checks out ok.
As far as your scr
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 06:55:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> And I've modified mirror_list.pl to use the new fields to generate a list
> that has only known-good mirrors on it. I took the approach of assuming
> that a site's http mirror is good if its ftp mirror checks out ok.
That's too optimisti
I've more or less funished up the program to check the status of our ftp
cdrom mirrors. My program generates a Mirrors.masterlist.status file,
with some fields to indicate the state of the mirrors. The fields are
chosen so we can run this program every few days, and stop pointing to a
mirror if it
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