Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Chris Tillman
This seems like a great plan, we should implement at least the top level very quickly so the website has a new look to go with the new release. -- *--v- Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 v--* | | | debian-imac

/org/search.debian.org/www/makelinks.sh

2001-12-14 Thread Tor Slettnes
Is the 'makelinks.sh' script in search.debian.org run automatically (through Cron or otherwise)? If not, could someone run it? (To add Norwegian search) Thanks in advance. -tor -- Får i ulveklær

Re: Deliberate web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:41:31PM -0500, Jeff Albro wrote: > If you take a look at the server logs, you can see where people went from > the main page. (grep for home page as referring link) How does this work? I don't get it. Maybe it's just that www.d.o Apache logs don't track referrers... > Y

Re: Deliberate web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 05:41:31PM -0500, Jeff Albro wrote: > > If you take a look at the server logs, you can see where people went from > the main page. (grep for home page as referring link) You can tell how > people are using it now. I suspect you won't find people clicking on the > "Debian

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Grant Bowman
[oops, slipped by Jeff. I wrote this before I read his post, so read this with a grain of salt. -- Grant ] Intuitively, this approach seems better to me. It keeps the types of users in mind and provides them with the information they need. That is the basic function of a website in the overal

Deliberate web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Jeff Albro
I'm glad to see this being discussed, as I agree that the home page and the overall menu structure can certainly be improved. I think the proposed RFC design has a bunch of good points, but, when you design (or redesign) something, you need to put the cart before the horse. Are there basic guide

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 04:24:16PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > Josip, it looks like we are thinking more along the same lines than I > thought from reading your response. Guess we just needed to get > oriented. Looks like it. I suppose I took you too literally when you said you'll just leave t

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 10:04:49PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > What I'm proposing is to make a paragraph for "Getting Debian" on the front > page, instead of just a link. > I'd prefer to leave discusssions for the details of the main page until we decide the overall layout. [snip] > > Yes, I

debian-www updates [charles@bellcore.net: Re: postfix DoS]

2001-12-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
Can we arrange things so that security advisories can be published to the website at the same time that they are released? They make it to LWN before they are up on debian.org. -- - mdz --- Begin Message --- Not Found The requested URL /security/2001/dsa-093 was not found on this server. On Fr

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:36:44PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: > Very nice proposal James, thanks for putting this together. I can see > some thought went into this. This is a good, thorough "update" to what > we have presently with some realignment. I like it. I hope more > qualified volunteer

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:45:13PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > > Now, each of these needs attention, if we intend to keep them on the web > > pages. Also, we'd want to convert group 2 to group 3, and group 3 to group > > 4. :) > > That sounds a bit like we are proselytizing. Perhaps we are, bu

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 07:53:16PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:39:33PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > > My idea of a main page is one that let's you quickly find a subpage that > > will get you the information you want. With that in mind, the new front > > page will have

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Grant Bowman
Very nice proposal James, thanks for putting this together. I can see some thought went into this. This is a good, thorough "update" to what we have presently with some realignment. I like it. I hope more qualified volunteers step up to help out with this. * James A. Treacy <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 12:39:33PM -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: > My idea of a main page is one that let's you quickly find a subpage that > will get you the information you want. With that in mind, the new front > page will have less information than it currently has. > > Links: > About Debian

Re: Lagging DSA....

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 02:55:34PM -0200, Philipe Gaspar wrote: > What is happening with DSA on Debian's website?! > The DSA-093 is lagging 2 days on website! > The update shouldn't be commited same time, since it doesn't need much work > at all?! Considering this is a volunteer organization, yo

RFC: web site reorganization

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
There have been a few discussions over the past year about reorganizing the Debian web site. Additionally, a few recent problems with placement of items on the main page have pointed out that we really are in need of some changes. This mail is a RFC on a proposed flowchart. Note the word flowchart

Lagging DSA....

2001-12-14 Thread Philipe Gaspar
What is happening with DSA on Debian's website?! The DSA-093 is lagging 2 days on website! The update shouldn't be commited same time, since it doesn't need much work at all?! -- Philipe Gaspar aka kr0n. Unix SysAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread James A. Treacy
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:04:23PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > The PowerPC and Hurd pages look good -- they have more than just generic > information. The Alpha and SPARC pages seem like they could be getting > there, too. > > Note that I'm not saying there's anything wrong about generic inform

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Christopher C. Chimelis
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 06:02:31PM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > How about under either Support or Miscellaneous? I like Support better, > > since the port pages frequently provide information for people that are > > thinking of installing De

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 03:04:23PM +0100, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > (Before you complain, I didn't pick that confusing term for the section > > > name.) > > > > how about if you give us some ideas of what you think might be a better > > name? > > "Getting Debian" or "" ~ Sor

Re: Debian WWW CVS commit by danish: webwml/danish/international/l10n/data

2001-12-14 Thread Kaare Olsen
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 18:08:22 -0500, James A. Treacy wrote: >> You're welcome to remove the "data" directory from danish, I can't... >> >Inability to remove a directory without direct access to the repository >is one of the annoying limitations of CVS. Nice to know. It seems strange to me that t

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 06:02:31PM -0500, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > How about under either Support or Miscellaneous? I like Support better, > since the port pages frequently provide information for people that are > thinking of installing Debian on a non-i386 architecture and, since they >

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 11:56:03PM -0800, Randolph Chung wrote: > > (Before you complain, I didn't pick that confusing term for the section > > name.) > > how about if you give us some ideas of what you think might be a better > name? "Getting Debian" or "" > If it doesn't fit under one of the e

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2001-12-14 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Re: qa.debian.org website status

2001-12-14 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Dec 14, 2001 at 01:29:46AM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: > Why aren't these pages in the debian-wml CVS with the rest of the > Debian WWW site? It is due to the PHP generated charts? > > http://qa.debian.org/debcheck.php They've always been in the qa.debian.org CVS (/cvs/qa, module w

qa.debian.org website status

2001-12-14 Thread Grant Bowman
Why aren't these pages in the debian-wml CVS with the rest of the Debian WWW site? It is due to the PHP generated charts? http://qa.debian.org/debcheck.php Also and are linked from qa.debian.org. I guess I noticed this but it neve

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Alexander Zangerl
On Thu, 13 Dec 2001 22:25:17 EST, "James A. Treacy" writes: >On Thu, Dec 13, 2001 at 06:43:38PM -0800, Grant Bowman wrote: >> What about Architectures? Is this too long? >> >The problem with this term is that it is generally used to denote >different hardware and thus doesn't do justice to the po

Re: Ports disappeared from www.debian.org?

2001-12-14 Thread Randolph Chung
> (Before you complain, I didn't pick that confusing term for the section > name.) how about if you give us some ideas of what you think might be a better name? If it doesn't fit under one of the existing headings, does it make sense to have an "Architecture" heading and just go ahead and list al