Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On 04/30/2015 08:09 AM, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > I agree that this should ideally be fixed upstream. I haven't looked > at latest upstream release yet either, and I doubt I will be able to > in at least a couple of weeks, but from what it seems from Vincent > Lejeune's description, it doesn't look

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi to All, > [1] > > [2] > I see one woman, and ~15 anymals, no men at all. How can this be interpreted as "privilegin

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > I see one woman, and ~15 anymals, no men at all. > How can this be interpreted as "privileging a male gaze position."? I think the issue is that the woman is scantily clad. That said, I also don't find those posters particula

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Margarita, >I think the issue is that the woman is scantily clad. That said, I >also don't find those posters particularly disturbing. From the >original description I expect the in-game graphics are much more >explicit and the constant appearance of scantily clad women becomes >disturbing.

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

I do not understand the added value of displaying sexualized characters in the game. Perhaps the concept of a semi-naked white woman with anorexia plays some unreplaceable role in the storyline that, let's say, a similarly dressed but healthy latino man cannot not. Not enough information. Could yo

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 30/04/15 07:56 AM, suso.bale...@gmail.com wrote: > I do not understand the added value of displaying sexualized > characters in the game. Perhaps the concept of a semi-naked > white woman with anorexia plays some unreplaceable role in > the storyline that, let's say, a similarly dressed but > he

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:50:12AM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: > Hi to All, > > [1] > > > [2] > > I see one woman, an

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

On 30 April 2015 at 16:43, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:50:12AM +, Gianfranco Costamagna wrote: >> Hi to All, > >> > [1] >> >> > [2] >>

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Marko, >From the screenshots on http://supertuxkart.blogspot.fi/ it seems >that she does have clothes on in the game itself (though her >cold-resistance is marvelous in the screenshot where she drives >through snowy village with bare shoulders). But in a way that makes >the poster only more poi

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Steve Langasek escrebeu: > > The phrase "male gaze" refers to content rendered from the *point of view* > of the (implicitly heterosexual) male. So images of women instead of men is > consistent with this idea, on the grounds that men would rather look at > ("sexy") images of women than at images o

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ingame pictures (using imgur) of Sara : http://i.imgur.com/eT0WmrV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/X8sYzYc.jpg http://i.imgur.com/Zkil96v.jpg http://i.imgur.com/fNo3HDj.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NMD1gmJ.jpg The Sara model in bikini is fine per se, buthaving it 8 times in a track

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi, On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > To be honest I'm hoping a bit that having downstream discussing the > representation in STK may make they change their mind. While I much appreciate the concern for the way a kid-oriented game is depicting the female figure, I

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-04-30 23:05 GMT+02:00 : > Hi, > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >> To be honest I'm hoping a bit that having downstream discussing the >> representation in STK may make they change their mind. > > While I much appreciate the concern for the way a kid-oriente

Re: Content rating

Hi, (not sure if all people in Cc: still follow this, let me know if that's off-topic) On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:17:50PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2015-04-30 23:05 GMT+02:00 : > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200, Vincent Lejeune wrote: > >> To be honest I'm hoping a bit that having

Re: Content rating

2015-04-30 23:28 GMT+02:00 : > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:17:50PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: >> I think it's fair at least to ask for the package description to alert >> of what's inside the package, honestly and explicitly. Then each >> parent could decide whether they want their kids to play game

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Hi Vincent, you are totally right: those images are sexist and racist. For those who see nothing wrong with them: do you know why a swim suite can be worn only at the beach and not anywhere else? would walking in biking among other totally dressed individuals, attract sexual attention? and while b

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

b...@debian.org escrebeu: > Debian has already quite its share of heated debate around sexism, > enough for me to unsubscribe from various lists to keep my sanity, so The fact is that sexist behavior produces rejection in modern societies. Debian is not an isolated bubble floating in some ivory to

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: > Pedophilic or not, a sexualized adolescent depicted following the > standards of Hentai porn characters in a kids' game is too much to be > ignored, sorry. I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit disturbing... Same for jumping to con

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Ansgar Burchardt debian.org> writes: > suso.baleato gmail.com writes: > > Pedophilic or not, a sexualized adolescent depicted following the > > standards of Hentai porn characters in a kids' game is too much to be > > ignored, sorry. > > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn char

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

Vincent Lejeune dijo [Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200]: > The poster by itself is not really about sexism, but rather about > cultural appropriation: > First Sara is white in what appears to be a native american like outfit. > Then she is in front of a religious building (the pyramid) and wea