Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Adeodato Simó
Uhm, I think this post will be on-topic here: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/1051 For me, this is a: - yay for a to-the-point article from a respected member of the KDE community - boo for these kind of articles being still necessary. (I'm not much in touch w

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Sun, 15 May 2005 14:40:26 +0200, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Uhm, I think this post will be on-topic here: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/view/1051 For me, this is a: - yay for a to-the-point article from a respected member of the KDE community It may be applauded

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Amaya
Herman Robak wrote: > stating that women are not HIG compliant; i.e. they are hard to use. Maybe we don't like to be "used" :) > Now, what matters more to a free software movement? > Clever coders, or well-rounded personalities that get along well with > the opposite sex? Both skills are importa

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> Both skills are important. Forget about the "getting along well with > the opposite sex" part for now. The community behind the code is > just as important as the code itself. Hear hear. -- hanna m. wallach blog: http://join-the-dots.org/ work: http://www.inference.phy.cam.ac.uk/hmw26/ -- T

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Hi :) --- Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2005 14:40:26 +0200, Adeodato Simó > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It may be applauded on this very mailing list, > whereas on the > KDE forum the first response fires back (in gest, I > suppose) > stating that women are not HIG

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Sun, 15 May 2005 17:31:49 +0200, Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Herman Robak wrote: stating that women are not HIG compliant; i.e. they are hard to use. Maybe we don't like to be "used" :) chmod 000 /bin/woman Now, what matters more to a free software movement? Clever coders, or well-rounded

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Sun, 15 May 2005 18:17:10 +0200 (CEST), Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi :) --- Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: KDE forum the first response fires back (in gest, I suppose) stating that women are not HIG compliant;i.e. they are hard to use. That's a clear sign that makes c

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > OK, maybe you don't expect to come to a > conclusion, > but just want to share some of your frustrations? > I can sympathise with that. I don't know why your response to my message is so hostile, but seeing it is, I won't reply again. This list is

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Herman Robak
On Sun, 15 May 2005 19:40:10 +0200 (CEST), Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: --- Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: OK, maybe you don't expect to come to a conclusion, but just want to share some of your frustrations? I can sympathise with that. I don't know why your response to m

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Erinn Clark
* Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:05:15 20:14 +0200]: > I am trying to enlighten you. That is really very kind of you. Unfortunately, neither hubris nor hostility fly well around here so you're simply going to have to change your approach if you want any useful replies. :) -- off the cha

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Cere Davis
Recursive annoyance I like that. Can't count the number of times my feelings have wound up being recursive. Even deadlocked! I don't have a problem with anything that you said really. I'm not sure I understand what you mean with the non-compliance remark but I take it as more of compliment

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread C.M. Connelly
"HR" == Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Herman, HR> If you want to improve the situation, you must understand HR> the problematic gender. I think women have a pretty good understanding of ``the problematic gender''. That's why we're tired of dealing with their crap. HR> How do yo

Re: Core KDE member about HIG^W female contributors

2005-05-15 Thread Cere Davis
I really don'tlike the way it seems like people are jumping all over this Herman guy because of his remarks. While I don't think that it is women's responsibility to change mens behaviour, I do think women have a role to play in changing peoples opinion through civil dialog. Right now it would a

Re: pics for the d-w talk at LinuxTalk

2005-05-15 Thread Pia Waugh
Hi Meike, > I thought that maybe it would be a nice idea to have one slide in the > talk with a collection of pics of the d-w people. If you'd like to join > in, please send me a small pic of you (roughly 150x200 px). Actually, I'd like to use this opportunity to figure out whether I can be cla