Re: gender portrayal (was: Women wanted as games programmers)

2005-05-12 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, May 12, 2005 at 01:57:07PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote: > > On 12/05/2005, at 3:24 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: > > >The weird about a lot of these female protagonists is that they're > >basically men in women's bodies. Usually bodies which, uh, > >overaccentuate > >certain physical attributes

gender portrayal (was: Women wanted as games programmers)

2005-05-11 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 12/05/2005, at 3:24 AM, Erinn Clark wrote: The weird about a lot of these female protagonists is that they're basically men in women's bodies. Usually bodies which, uh, overaccentuate certain physical attributes. I read something about this once; maybe I'll try to find the article later... On

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 07:47:33PM +0200, Javier Candeira wrote: > One of the best games of the last year was Beyond Good and Evil, whose > heroine is a green-haired teenager anybody, men or women, would identify with. Ah yes, that was rather good. There's probably some more I've forgotten, too. L

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Erinn Clark
* Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005:05:11 12:44 +0100]: > Most of the best ones in recent history have either had strong female > protagonists or principals (Phantom Brave, Disgaea, Xenosaga, Final > Fantasy X-2) or simply been ambivalent about the gender of the > characters (typically bec

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Javier Candeira
One of the best games of the last year was Beyond Good and Evil, whose heroine is a green-haired teenager anybody, men or women, would identify with. Highly recommended, good for 12 yro and up, and it is now being sold for 10 euros in re-edition! -- javier Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Wed, May 1

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:46:35PM +1000, Pia Waugh wrote: > Just a quick comment on this, I don't think that the cars and guns > thing is what puts girls off some games, it is the ridiculous pigeon-holing > of women in those games that leaves the bad taste. I loved playing quake, > doom, wolfenste

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, May 11, 2005 at 01:18:47PM +1000, Helen Faulkner wrote: > This may be of interest, especially if any of you are in the UK and > considering doing a degree in computer science. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4530583.stm > > I think it's a positive step. It's not really,

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Clytie Siddall
On 11/05/2005, at 7:32 PM, Hanna M. Wallach wrote: Josie Fraser first alerted me to the Guardian article in her blog post (http://fraser.typepad.com/edtechuk/2005/05/uk_computer_gam.html) a couple of days ago. She makes a great point: "The University are going to hold some taster days to try and ad

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> oh, and don't you think it would be nice to have a collective > non-blog space to collect interesting links? i've been fishing > around on the d-w wiki and on the webpage but i don't see any > collected links. maybe a debian-women account on http://del.icio.us > would be cool? Fabienne, I real

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> Rock! :) Just a quick comment on this, I don't think that the cars and guns > thing is what puts girls off some games, it is the ridiculous pigeon-holing > of women in those games that leaves the bad taste. I loved playing quake, > doom, wolfenstein, metal slug and a bunch of other shoot-em-ups a

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-11 Thread Hanna M. Wallach
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4530583.stm Thanks for pointing that out, Helen. The Guardian has an article on this too (http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/news/0,12597,1479780,00.html), which includes a couple of interesting statistics: "Women make up only 17% of the industry's work

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-10 Thread fabienne s
helen, fun article, but it doesn't mention names of actual gaming companies that are looking to hire women. ubisoft comes to mind (it's here in town in paris), and i know they aren't hiring _anyone_ this year in france as programmers, let alone women. france is going to have a rougher time de

Re: Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-10 Thread Pia Waugh
> Hi All, > > This may be of interest, especially if any of you are in the UK and > considering doing a degree in computer science. > > http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4530583.stm > > I think it's a positive step. Rock! :) Just a quick comment on this, I don't think that the cars

Women wanted as games programmers

2005-05-10 Thread Helen Faulkner
Hi All, This may be of interest, especially if any of you are in the UK and considering doing a degree in computer science. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/education/4530583.stm I think it's a positive step. Helen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscri