Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-26 Thread Fabricio Cannini
nicole wrote: At 12:25 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with: On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote: Jutta Wrage wrote: Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php Hm

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-26 Thread Art McGee
> I AM a "cranky old bat". Dipping back into the recesses of > my memory, to the 60's which I remember all too well, the > struggle for the rights of Blacks in the U.S. didn't > really gain momentum until "white" people joined in. I > think that it takes some men saying, "Let these women into > our

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-26 Thread Fabricio Cannini
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Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread nicole
At 23:26 on Jul 23, Amaya shook the earth with: > If you want a supporters (male supporters) web page, speak-up or I'll > just choose another field of work. I won't waste time with something > which is not interesting to the debian-women project. Well, that's not just up to me to decide, it's up

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread Gretchen
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 11:04:02PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > >Maybe I'm just a cranky old bat, but I don't think we need an > >endorsement > >page from men. > > Hmm, is it really the age? Do young women think different at all? > Coming from a young woman, I don't think we nee

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Romana Branden
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:55:05PM +0200, Amaya imparted: > > IMHO I'd love to see a bunch of supporting, pro-equality men. I'm sure > there are many of them lurking here. Men that are not merely trying to > score, but legitimately interested in Debian being more women-friendly > than it is now (i

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread simon
Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Raquel Rice a dit: [...] > I agree with Nicole that we don't need validation. I do think > though that some sort of recognition for *everyone* who contributes > is necessary. i would tend to agree, but not stupidly :). > I AM a "cranky old bat". Dipping back into the

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread Carla Schroder
On Friday 23 July 2004 2:04 pm, Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Maybe I'm just a cranky old bat, but I don't think we need an > > endorsement > > page from men. > > Hmm, is it really the age? Do young women think different at all? > I don't know. I just like it as an excuse for being cranky. :) -- ~~

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
nicole wrote: > I agree. After looking at the KDE page, it just seemed silly and > awkward to me. It's nice that these men support women devs in the KDE > project, but do they need to be publically acknowledged? I do believe > the point is to support women (and the project), not to support the > su

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread nicole
At 13:11 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with: > Ok, good, I think you summed it up very well. But shouldn't all contributors > to Debian-Women receive recognition? I'm just not comfortable with the idea > of a separate "these guys think D-W is cool" page, it doesn't make sense to > me.

Re: Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 22:11 Uhr schrieb Carla Schroder: Ok, good, I think you summed it up very well. But shouldn't all contributors to Debian-Women receive recognition? No problem with that. I like the idea of how men could get involved or helpful in the FAQ. And I think, male contribut

Profiles/contributors (was:Re: Website beta trial)

2004-07-23 Thread Carla Schroder
On Friday 23 July 2004 12:33 pm, nicole wrote: > > At 12:25 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with: > > > On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote: > > > Jutta Wrage wrote: > > > > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? > > > > > > As seen at: http://women.kd

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Carla Schroder wrote: > Hmmm... honestly, that makes me feel a bit queasy. I'm sure they're > great guys, but I don't see the point. It's not like there's a > shortage of platforms for men to get recognition in tech. And I don't > quite see how it fits the goals of Debian-Women... ?? IMHO I'd lo

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread nicole
At 12:25 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with: > On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote: > > Jutta Wrage wrote: > > > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? > > > > As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php > > > Hmmm... honestly, that makes

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Carla Schroder
On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote: > Jutta Wrage wrote: > > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? > > As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php Hmmm... honestly, that makes me feel a bit queasy. I'm sure they're great guys, but I don't see the

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Jutta Wrage wrote: > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php -- .''`. Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable : :' : - The Wizard of Oz - `. `'

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Jutta Wrage
Hi! Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 18:28 Uhr schrieb Erinn Clark: 1) The supporters page. The only issue with this one is that we'd basically need men to volunteer to be on it Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page? As far as my design, I've got a rough draft of the

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Erinn Clark
* Evilpig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 12:27 -0500]: > I would be happy to work on either of these. Is IRC a good place to > chat about this, or should stuff like this be discussed on the list or > in private email? I think it's nice for everyone to be able to help > out if they want, so if o

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Erinn Clark
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 19:04 +0200]: > Erinn Clark wrote: > > 1) The supporters page. > > Again, I'm willing to. It's all yours. I will not be surprised if we have more men on the supporters page than we do on the profiles page. So let's get started on changing that ASAP, ladie

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Erinn Clark
* Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 13:12 -0400]: > wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short > bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you mean users like us, or > high-powered women in tech, or ... ? I decided that it would be better to highlight wo

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 03:53 Uhr schrieb Amaya: What browser are you using? I see that on black... It's white on purple here, too, with Safari on Mac. Just unreadable. And the page does not validate. That makes the page look different on different browsers. http://validator.w3.org/check?u

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Nori Heikkinen wrote: > wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short > bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you mean users like us, or > high-powered women in tech, or ... ? Yes, but I would want to make a difference between Profiles and Success Histories. "How fre

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Evilpig
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:28:46 -0400, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sure, I want content. I asked a few weeks ago, but not many people > volunteered to take responsibility for the sections, so I figured I wasn't > clear enough or that maybe I needed to put out a skeleton website so people

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Nori Heikkinen
on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:59:18PM +0200, Amaya insinuated: > Are you out there? Want to share your success stories on free > software? Wouldn't that be great content for our site? wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you m

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Erinn Clark wrote: > 1) The supporters page. Again, I'm willing to. > As far as my design, I've got a rough draft of the general FAQ here: > http://cytosine.org/~helix/dw/faqs/ .. the main page is just random > text to check the basic design. I've not quite figured out what to do > with the fron

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Hi there, long email ahead, be warned! Almut Behrens wrote: > hmm, I think, if we're going to have more than one design proposal for > the site (which isn't necessarily bad per se, IMHO), I'd suggest we > also have a somewhat formalised way of coordinating efforts and > choosing upon the final des

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Erinn Clark
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 17:31 +0200]: > Please, please, please!!! > Can I help you on that? Do you want content? Just ask! Sure, I want content. I asked a few weeks ago, but not many people volunteered to take responsibility for the sections, so I figured I wasn't clear enough or

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Evilpig
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:47:58 +0200, Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hmm, I think, if we're going to have more than one design proposal > for the site (which isn't necessarily bad per se, IMHO), I'd suggest > we also have a somewhat formalised way of coordinating efforts and > choosing up

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Almut Behrens
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:29:33PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote: > On Thursday 22 July 2004 6:28 pm, Amaya wrote: > > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. > > > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > > > Please send us feedback :-) > > > > Ok, I'm confused. Erinn is a

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Erinn Clark wrote: > I'll "unveil" my design soon, once I have more content up. Please, please, please!!! Can I help you on that? Do you want content? Just ask! -- .''`. Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable : :' : - The

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Erinn Clark
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 14:32 +0200]: > Erinn, please don't be angry. Zazu submitted this to me privately and I > just act as a proxy and want to share it with you. This doesn't have to > be the website look or anything, but rather proof of concept that there > are far more women o

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Miriam Ruiz wrote: > some comments: 1) why "debian womAn" instead of "debian > womEn"? Zazu doesn't speak English :-) She wouldn't know the difference! > 2) I agree with what has been said about the size of the fonts, a bit > small but it's readable here It may not be readable to every single

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
Erinn Clark wrote: > I've already begun working on the site. This is a duplicated effort, > for no apparent reason. Why didn't you (or Zazu) reply to my original > mail(s) about the website design? The one where I said I was going to > work on it? Erinn, please don't be angry. Zazu submitted this

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Amaya
nicole wrote: > The banner is nice and all, but what about the ones we already had > designed by our lovely dana? I thought we had decided on those. The problem is that Zazu doesn't speak English. She didn't know about the other logos. She's not suscribed to this list. She just spontaneously set

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" > site. > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) I like it very much, I asked another girl here and she does too (I'm at Euskal, a LAN Party, right now). Just some

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-23 Thread gaba
I would like to help. Perhaps we can coordinate for this. Did I lost which software are we will use for the website? Anyway i understand this like trying to move forward :) I think is great to impulse the discussion about this. About the design, i like pink but i like to put the logo we agree.

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Carla Schroder
On Thursday 22 July 2004 6:28 pm, Amaya wrote: > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) > Ok, I'm confused. Erinn is already working on the official Debian-women site. So what's the deal? What is thi

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Evilpig
I see the sms box in light pink too - Mozilla 1.7/ OS X. I prefer the banner on that page to the one with the pierced navel. Though my navel is pierced, it doesn't run Debian ;-P The font size is a little hard to read at high resolutions because it is so small. One possible workaround for this

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread nicole
The banner is nice and all, but what about the ones we already had designed by our lovely dana? I thought we had decided on those. The website itself looks okay, although the color scheme I admit is overwhelming. The fonts also seem small to me, but that's probably because my browser's default fo

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Erinn Clark
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 03:28 +0200]: > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) I've already begun working on the site. This is a duplicated effort, for no apparent reason. Why didn't y

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread harmoney
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:53:35AM +0200, Amaya wrote: > Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > > White on pink on white? (Referring to "recordatorio sms" at the left > > side) Can anyone actually read this? > > What browser are you using? I see that on black... > What about the banner? :-))) I'm seeing the

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Gretchen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 22 July 2004 09:12 pm, Amaya wrote: > Gretchen wrote: > > I like the banner on the top! > > What about > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/lar/cache.fichero.banner_wd.png > I wonder if the navel piercing is too tribal, if it represent

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Amaya
Gretchen wrote: > I like the banner on the top! What about http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/lar/cache.fichero.banner_wd.png I wonder if the navel piercing is too tribal, if it represents us all... > I'm not sure about the brighter pink down the side however...it's too > much pink for me.

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Gretchen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 22 July 2004 08:28 pm, Amaya wrote: > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) I like the banner on the top! I'm not sure about the brighter pink down the side however...it's too much pink for me. I don

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread toya
looks really nice simple ;) not full of thing thats cool toya Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) > > -- > .''`. Hearts will never be practical until they can

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Amaya
Frank Lichtenheld wrote: > White on pink on white? (Referring to "recordatorio sms" at the left > side) Can anyone actually read this? What browser are you using? I see that on black... What about the banner? :-))) Sorry about it being in spanish... it's just a toy ATM. -- .''`. Hearts will ne

Re: Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Frank Lichtenheld
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 03:28:22AM +0200, Amaya wrote: > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. > > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ > > Please send us feedback :-) White on pink on white? (Referring to "recordatorio sms" at the left side) Can anyone actually read this?

Website beta trial

2004-07-22 Thread Amaya
Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site. http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/ Please send us feedback :-) -- .''`. Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable : :' : - The Wizard of Oz - `. `' Proudly r