Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
Vincent Lejeune writes: >>From: Brian Gupta > >>Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >>parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >>age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, >>and would consider it appropriate for all age

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread suso . baleato
Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > Miriam Ruiz writes: > > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > >> Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > >> will try to end the discussion here. > > > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when >

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Vincent Lejeune
>Vincent Lejeune gmail.com> writes: >> Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. >> It's rather : *snip* >Vincent, > could you please link of to the forum/mailing-list thread where you >tried to engage the STK dev-team on the matter? Because I can't find >any. It was debatt

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Gianfranco Costamagna
Hi All, [quoting myself] >> "we might need to patch/drop half the debian-games archive, women are>> >> like a totem for men, specially for developers, and I guess we won't >> (they, I'm not a game developer) remove them in games :)" >Yes, that is a comment making use of sexist stereotypes

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2015-05-01 18:39 GMT+02:00 Vincent Lejeune : > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : a game that was presented as a family game and which had > a non human cast for years is now adopting the stance of an > heterosexual male point of view. > It's virtually ac

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Vincent Lejeune dijo [Fri, May 01, 2015 at 06:40:01PM +0200]: > Thanks for your answer, it's interesting. > I initially asked a native american feminist about these issues on twitter, > she told me that the poster was mixing random cultural element together, > I interpreted that as offensive. But n

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Letna
Vincent Lejeune gmail.com> writes: > Actually it is not inappropriate in a age rating perspective. > It's rather : *snip* Vincent, could you please link of to the forum/mailing-list thread where you tried to engage the STK dev-team on the matter? Because I can't find any. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Vincent Lejeune
2015-05-01 4:45 GMT+02:00 Gunnar Wolf : > Vincent Lejeune dijo [Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 09:26:23PM +0200]: >> The poster by itself is not really about sexism, but rather about >> cultural appropriation: >> First Sara is white in what appears to be a native american like outfit. >> Then she is in front

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Vincent Lejeune
>From: Brian Gupta >Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a >parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for >age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, >and would consider it appropriate for all ages. (This is by my own >relativel

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread beuc
On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 06:01:45PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > > Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > > will try to end the discussion here. > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, wh

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Miriam Ruiz writes: > 2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : >> Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and >> will try to end the discussion here. > > I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when > the package is currently maintained by

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2015-05-01 17:22 GMT+02:00 Ansgar Burchardt : > Anyway, I don't think this is still relevant to debian-devel-games@ and > will try to end the discussion here. I don't see how this won't be relevant for the Debian Games Team, when the package is currently maintained by the Debian Games Team [1].

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread suso . baleato
Ansgar Burchardt escrebeu: > > >> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included > >> > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: > >> > > >> > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or > >> > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among dev

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: >> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included >> > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: >> > >> > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or >> > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among developers

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread suso . baleato
> > Sure. I have explicitly asked why that sexualized character was included > > in the game [1]. I wanted to discern whether it was because: > > > > a) it plays some role in the storyline, or > > b) it was just the outcome of sexist behavior among developers > > Or c) other reasons. The real wo

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
suso.bale...@gmail.com writes: >> > Ansgar Burchardt escreveu: >> > >> > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit >> > disturbing... Same for jumping to conclusions about the authors earlier: > > Of course not that one. Judge yourself: > > http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread Brian Gupta
Addressing the question of age-inappropriateness and speaking as a parent of a young boy and girl, who tries to be vigilant for age-inappropriate content, I see absolutely no issue with this game, and would consider it appropriate for all ages. (This is by my own relatively puritanical US moral co

Re: Concern about racism and sexism in Supertuxkart 0.9

2015-05-01 Thread suso . baleato
> > Ansgar Burchardt escreveu: > > > > I find you equating images like [1] with "Hentai porn characters" a bit > > disturbing... Same for jumping to conclusions about the authors earlier: Of course not that one. Judge yourself: http://i.imgur.com/FkeD8PV.jpg http://i.imgur.com/NMD1gmJ.jpg http: