Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Jordi GutiƩrrez Hermos
2009/9/10 Lisi Reisz : > And the poster himself in a private email, and also on the list, said > that the motive I had in fact attributed to him - that he felt in some way > threatened - was correct, tho' I had got very wrong the way in which he felt > threatened. No, I didn't, but I didn't want t

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Lisi Reisz wrote: > That is not true and is offensive. I made no attempt to extrapolate > to all men. It may not have been intentional, but it certainly was implied. When people are assigned to a class and judgements are made, those judgements are extrapolated to members of th

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2009/9/10 Lisi Reisz : > On Thursday 10 September 2009 17:34:14 Don Armstrong wrote: >> The reason why the comment appears to be sexist to at least a few of >> us[1] is because it attributes motives to an individual based purely >> on their perceived gender, and attempts to extrapolate from that to

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 10 September 2009 17:34:14 Don Armstrong wrote: > The reason why the comment appears to be sexist to at least a few of > us[1] is because it attributes motives to an individual based purely > on their perceived gender, and attempts to extrapolate from that to > the motives of all indivi

let's not move backwards

2009-09-10 Thread martin f krafft
I have not followed the recent thread on the event proposed by Marga, and I don't know what happened so far. I also don't really want to find out. This is why I am starting a new thread. I only saw Miriam's suggestion about a women-only list. I wanted to react to that, and in doing so, I do not wa

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > Granted, the "only contribution [..] I can identify as having come > from a man" is a bit strong and could be perhaps be misunderstood as > "all man do things like that" (which would in my eyes be sexist), > but if you want no longer stated anything th

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2009/9/10 Erinn Clark : > IMO those lists are probably sufficient for women-only mailing lists. I > don't think we need to fracture d-w, especially given its "recent" > amount of inactivity. That's probably the bad side of my proposal. Will this new mailing list lower or raise the activity level?

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Erinn Clark
* Miriam Ruiz [2009:09:10 11:37 +0200]: > 2009/9/10 Holger Levsen : > > On Mittwoch, 26. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian > >> mailing list. > > > > It seemed and seems to me you were trolling here :-( > > I'm just

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek [090910 11:57]: > Yes? Change the gender in the original message and tell me who you think is > trolling. While there might be a thinkable context where such a message could be sexist, please put the mail the context it was in: It's about whether it makes sense to have a women-

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:23:25AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Mittwoch, 26. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > > It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian > > mailing list. > It seemed and seems to me you were trolling here :-( Yes? Change the gender in t

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Miriam Ruiz
2009/9/10 Holger Levsen : > On Mittwoch, 26. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: >> It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian >> mailing list. > > It seemed and seems to me you were trolling here :-( I'm just thinking aloud, but I wonder if it might make sense to al

Re: Thinking about organizing a special women-oriented event

2009-09-10 Thread Holger Levsen
On Mittwoch, 26. August 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > It seems to me that this comment is sexist, and has no place on any Debian > mailing list. It seemed and seems to me you were trolling here :-( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.