Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 06:49:57PM +, Helen Faulkner wrote: > Having said that, Erinn was right to remind people that posting IRC > comments is inappropriate. If that's the case, what's the point of bringing the matter to this list? Those of us who weren't on the channel at the time cannot a

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Pia Smith
Hi all, > Discussion: > 1) We need to create spaces, forums, cultures within Debian that are > welcoming to and supportive of women. > 2) We need to encourage women to be involved in Debian and to interact > with > Debian. Can I also suggest: 3) We need to be welcoming of men, of all people.

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Helen Faulkner
Steve Langasek wrote: What context did I omit that you think justifies the comments that I did quote? What possible context was there that supports Carla's claim that she was responding to obnoxious attitudes in a non-sexist, topic-neutral way? I cannot think of such a context. That is the k

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > What context did I omit that you think justifies the > comments that I did > quote? What possible context was there that > supports Carla's claim that she > was responding to obnoxious attitudes in a > non-sexist, topic-neutral way? > > Being "

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Dec 15, 2004 at 10:07:57AM +0100, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > --- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > > In a group nominally established in recognition of > > the fact that women are > > under-represented in Debian and with the goal of > > increasing the roles of > > women in Debian,

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
--- Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: > In a group nominally established in recognition of > the fact that women are > under-represented in Debian and with the goal of > increasing the roles of > women in Debian, I don't think it's the attitudes of > long-time active Debian > contribut

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Erinn Clark
* Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:12:15 00:37 -0800]: Tsk, bad form. Quoting from the IRC channel is a major no-no. -- off the chain like a rebellious guanine nucleotide signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Miriam Ruiz
Hi, Some random thoughts on what happened: 1) Even though people in the IRC channel are really nice, there seem to be some points in which a peaceful conversation between men and women is extremelly difficult. I'm not stating this just because of what happened yesterday, but because every time I'

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 11:46:36PM -0800, Carla Schroder wrote: > On Tuesday 14 December 2004 10:42 pm, Helen Faulkner wrote: > > The major aim of the Debian Women channel is to increase the participation > > of women in Debian. I expect that all of you know about that, agree with > > it, etc.

Re: Article on Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Ognyan Kulev
Christian Perrier wrote: -Level 3 are packages which, in some occasions but not on default style installs, will prompt users. The Bulgarian translation is here very partial so there is room for some translation work to take place. I don't know if others already began to work on this. This would

Re: Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Carla Schroder
On Tuesday 14 December 2004 10:42 pm, Helen Faulkner wrote: > > Hello All, Hello Helen, > > The major aim of the Debian Women channel is to increase the participation > of women in Debian. I expect that all of you know about that, agree with > it, etc. > > That being stated, I believe that

Re: Article on Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Christian Perrier
CC'ing Ognyan. Ognyan, this was a conversation I had with Christina Haralanova in debian-women. > > So, I'd like to ask if you could bring us some help and especially get > > in touch with the people currently working on Bulgarian translations > > (Ognyan Kulev, Rumen Krasstev). > > I know them b

Sexist Behaviour in Debian Women

2004-12-15 Thread Helen Faulkner
Hello All, The major aim of the Debian Women channel is to increase the participation of women in Debian. I expect that all of you know about that, agree with it, etc. That being stated, I believe that it is conducive to that aim, and to what I would call our basic feminist philosophy, to