Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 03:33:13PM -0400, David Nusinow wrote: > d-i is a very high profile project right now too, with well over a > hundred contributers, and it gets along without these problems. These are not problems. The absence of these is a problem. You have just made me very nervous about

Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 11:50:00PM +0200, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote: > As reward for your work you get recognition in the Debian > community. No. The only reward for work is more work. > Throughthis he has become the "informal" d-i leader. And it is a > good thing that his word counts more than mine

Re: No goals, selective memory, be nice, red nose day

2004-08-22 Thread Ricardo Mones
On Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:10:08 +0100 MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2004-08-21 02:40:38 +0100 Ricardo Mones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Why is it good for either to post here than some -user list? > > Why is bad? > > If we start from the assump

Re: No goals, selective memory, be nice, red nose day

2004-08-22 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-08-22 20:33:50 +0100 Jenn Vesperman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: If you need advice on how to create a men-only group [...] But expecting me to fund, sysadmin and provide resources [...] weird to me. Can you explain it? I don't expect you to. It's simply a reason why the "toilet block"

Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 09:25:17AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 03:49:26PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 02:23:43PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > What you will encounter in Debian, and free software development in > > > general, is nothing l

Re: No goals, selective memory, be nice, red nose day

2004-08-22 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Thu, Aug 19, 2004 at 10:05:04AM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > On 2004-08-19 03:49:15 +0100 Miriam Ruiz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No, debian-women as a whole is not closed and I did not say it was. > Some small parts already seem to be closed and it seems likely that > there will be more if left

Re: Debian Acronym dict

2004-08-22 Thread Amaya
Hi there! Jutta Wrage wrote: > As there are a lot of acronyms in discussions and debian web pages and > even in this list sometimes people ask, what they mean, I crated a > short dict with them. As web page it would look something like this: > > http://www.la-sorciere.de/debian-women/glossar.html

Re: What to do?

2004-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jutta Wrage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > >The german translation team is for sure in need for skilled > >translators and there are a lot of translation tasks to be done in > >Debian. > > I already joined debian-l10n-german. First step, good step..:-) > >I'm deeply involved in Debian Installer

Re: No goals, selective memory, be nice, red nose day

2004-08-22 Thread Jenn Vesperman
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 00:12, MJ Ray wrote: > I don't think it would be right or a solution, but anyway: what > men-only groups are provided by linuxchix? Please reply off-list. I am > not subscribed to debian-women. None. Linuxchix has limited resources funded out of my own pocket (and my husba

Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread David Nusinow
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 09:25:17AM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 03:49:26PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 02:23:43PM +0100, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > > What you will encounter in Debian, and free software development in > > > general, is nothing l

Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread Jenn Vesperman
On Sat, 2004-08-21 at 09:22, Matthew Palmer wrote: > > I don't see anyone proposing changing the fundamental Debian culture. It > > would > > be extremely cheeky to even consider it! "Hi, I'm new here, and I want to > > be > > part of your club, but first you have to completely change everythi

Re: What to do?

2004-08-22 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Sonntag, 22.08.04 um 19:04 Uhr schrieb Christian Perrier: When you mentioned "the project", Jutta, do you mean th D-W project or the Debian project in general. D-W is a Debian Project, even if some do not want. ;-) And supporting D-W means in general supporting Debian while supporting Deb

Re: What to do?

2004-08-22 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Jutta Wrage ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > I would like supporting the project by assisting with my knowledge from > 25 years working in men dominated spheres. I my translate texts from > English to German and do other things. When you mentioned "the project", Jutta, do you mean th D-W project

Re: Dict and Glossary

2004-08-22 Thread Jutta Wrage
Am Dienstag, 17.08.04 um 00:56 Uhr schrieb Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw): To make the acronyms more compatible, and following a "Wiki mode", I believe that all references to DD and to other 'terms' should be in capitals (Debian Developers, Application Manager). DWARF needs

Re: The prevailing Debian culture

2004-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 09:54:06PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > I'm starting to think that some people have very > closed view and think everybody's experience is and > must be as them (I'm talking about Andrew in this > case). Yeah, it's real easy to dismiss somebody like that. Except that I wasn'

Re: Proofreading of a part of a document about "gender neutrality"

2004-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Aug 21, 2004 at 10:22:18PM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Heh heh. Heh heh. Heh heh. He said "manus". Heh heh. > > Don't laugh. If you have something to say, well, say > it. Laughing is not an argument. What, have you never watched "Beavis and B

Re: Proofreading of a part of a document about "gender neutrality"

2004-08-22 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sun, Aug 22, 2004 at 11:25:22AM +1000, Ben Burton wrote: > > > Come on, the only possible conclusion of this line of reasoning is > > that communication between two people is impossible. > > Not at all. Humans communicated quite successfully long before > dictionaries or grammarians came abou