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On Friday 23 July 2004 10:39 pm, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> That is blatant discrimination. Debian was founded as an inclusive, not
> an exclusive group. I am starting to question whether your project is a
> legitimate use of Debian resources. As a s
This is ridiculously off topic, someone kick him, please
Rob Taylor
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 20:15:45 -0700
Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:00:01AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Erinn Clark a dit:
> >> [0] http://lists.debian.org
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 10:12:01PM -0400, Erinn Clark wrote:
I have no idea why this happened, but it really doesn't matter. He's
obviously not going on the page.
That is blatant discrimination. Debian was founded as an inclusive, not
an exclusive group. I am starting to question whether your
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 02:00:01AM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Erinn Clark a dit:
[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2004/03/msg00221.html
(and go ahead and real the whole thread.)
i'll wait, otherwise i'd probably want to tear his head off. oh wait a
minu
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 11:55:13AM +0930, Romana Branden wrote:
By political correctness I mean those who uncivilly ignore common
courtesy in their quest to legitimize their anti-Christian worldview by
forcing it down everyone elses throat.
au contraire my droll and amusing friend, claiming a r
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 07:01:48PM -0700, Jonathan Walther imparted:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 11:19:18AM +0930, Romana Branden wrote:
> >as for political correctness, if that means people wo adhere to common
> >civility and courtesy,
>
> By political correctness I mean those who uncivilly ignore
* Carla Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 18:36 -0700]:
> Obviously you find yourself to be amusing. You are wrong.
> I vote for banning both Amaya and Jonathan. Erinn didn't go to all the
> trouble
> of founding Debian-Women just to provide yet another forum where assholes get
> free r
Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Jonathan Walther a dit:
[...]
> So, forward the revolution! Woman are important auxiliaries in our
> struggle against anti-Torah software monopolism.
>
> Jonathan
dude, are serious? if you are, i'd expect for you to get muzzled right
about now. if not, it's in *really
Ce jour Sat, 24 Jul 2004, Romana Branden a dit:
> im sorry, i fail to see how the two goals are mutually exclusive. as for
> political correctness, if that means people wo adhere to common civility
> and courtesy, then im all for it. if political correctness is a convenient
> label of denigratio
On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 11:19:18AM +0930, Romana Branden wrote:
as for political correctness, if that means people wo adhere to common
civility and courtesy,
By political correctness I mean those who uncivilly ignore common
courtesy in their quest to legitimize their anti-Christian worldview by
Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Erinn Clark a dit:
> * Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 17:45 -0700]:
>
>
> "I'd take a bullet for my wife, my mother, my sisters, but never for a
> feminist."[0] - Jonathan Walther
WTF?! *SIGHGRRR*
> All I have to say is: What?
> [0] http://lists.
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 05:45:13PM -0700, Jonathan Walther imparted:
> Thank you for the email, Amaya.
>
> I am proud to be listed on the Supporters page of the Debian-Women
> website. I hope to see my entry on it soon! What is the URL?
>
> Now, as to your questions:
>
> >1 - Why do you think
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:21:34PM -0400, Erinn Clark wrote:
* Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 17:45 -0700]:
"I'd take a bullet for my wife, my mother, my sisters, but never for a
feminist."[0] - Jonathan Walther
All I have to say is: What?
Can you be a bit clearer? I am h
At 17:45 on Jul 23, Jonathan Walther shook the earth with:
> Thank you for the email, Amaya.
>
> I am proud to be listed on the Supporters page of the Debian-Women
> website. I hope to see my entry on it soon! What is the URL?
Perhaps this response from our "friend" Jonathan can be used as a
On Friday 23 July 2004 5:45 pm, Jonathan Walther wrote:
> Thank you for the email, Amaya.
>
> I am proud to be listed on the Supporters page of the Debian-Women
> website. I hope to see my entry on it soon! What is the URL?
Obviously you find yourself to be amusing. You are wrong.
I vote for b
* Jonathan Walther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 17:45 -0700]:
"I'd take a bullet for my wife, my mother, my sisters, but never for a
feminist."[0] - Jonathan Walther
All I have to say is: What?
[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2004/03/msg00221.html
(and go ahead and real the whole
Thank you for the email, Amaya.
I am proud to be listed on the Supporters page of the Debian-Women
website. I hope to see my entry on it soon! What is the URL?
Now, as to your questions:
1 - Why do you think the Debian Women Project is important or useful?
It provides a place where politic
At 23:26 on Jul 23, Amaya shook the earth with:
> If you want a supporters (male supporters) web page, speak-up or I'll
> just choose another field of work. I won't waste time with something
> which is not interesting to the debian-women project.
Well, that's not just up to me to decide, it's up
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 11:04:02PM +0200 or thereabouts, Jutta Wrage wrote:
>
> >Maybe I'm just a cranky old bat, but I don't think we need an
> >endorsement
> >page from men.
>
> Hmm, is it really the age? Do young women think different at all?
>
Coming from a young woman, I don't think we nee
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 09:55:05PM +0200, Amaya imparted:
>
> IMHO I'd love to see a bunch of supporting, pro-equality men. I'm sure
> there are many of them lurking here. Men that are not merely trying to
> score, but legitimately interested in Debian being more women-friendly
> than it is now (i
Ce jour Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Raquel Rice a dit:
[...]
> I agree with Nicole that we don't need validation. I do think
> though that some sort of recognition for *everyone* who contributes
> is necessary.
i would tend to agree, but not stupidly :).
> I AM a "cranky old bat". Dipping back into the
On Friday 23 July 2004 2:04 pm, Jutta Wrage wrote:
> > Maybe I'm just a cranky old bat, but I don't think we need an
> > endorsement
> > page from men.
>
> Hmm, is it really the age? Do young women think different at all?
>
I don't know. I just like it as an excuse for being cranky. :)
--
~~
nicole wrote:
> I agree. After looking at the KDE page, it just seemed silly and
> awkward to me. It's nice that these men support women devs in the KDE
> project, but do they need to be publically acknowledged? I do believe
> the point is to support women (and the project), not to support the
> su
At 13:11 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with:
> Ok, good, I think you summed it up very well. But shouldn't all contributors
> to Debian-Women receive recognition? I'm just not comfortable with the idea
> of a separate "these guys think D-W is cool" page, it doesn't make sense to
> me.
Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 22:11 Uhr schrieb Carla Schroder:
Ok, good, I think you summed it up very well. But shouldn't all
contributors
to Debian-Women receive recognition?
No problem with that. I like the idea of how men could get involved or
helpful in the FAQ.
And I think, male contribut
On Friday 23 July 2004 12:33 pm, nicole wrote:
>
> At 12:25 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with:
>
> > On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote:
> > > Jutta Wrage wrote:
> > > > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page?
> > >
> > > As seen at: http://women.kd
Carla Schroder wrote:
> Hmmm... honestly, that makes me feel a bit queasy. I'm sure they're
> great guys, but I don't see the point. It's not like there's a
> shortage of platforms for men to get recognition in tech. And I don't
> quite see how it fits the goals of Debian-Women... ??
IMHO I'd lo
At 12:25 on Jul 23, Carla Schroder shook the earth with:
> On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote:
> > Jutta Wrage wrote:
> > > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page?
> >
> > As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php
>
>
> Hmmm... honestly, that makes
On Friday 23 July 2004 11:39 am, Amaya wrote:
> Jutta Wrage wrote:
> > Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page?
>
> As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php
Hmmm... honestly, that makes me feel a bit queasy. I'm sure they're great
guys, but I don't see the
Jutta Wrage wrote:
> Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page?
As seen at: http://women.kde.org/aboutus/supporters.php
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Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 18:28 Uhr schrieb Erinn Clark:
1) The supporters page.
The only issue with this one is that we'd basically need men to
volunteer to be on it
Why basically men? What is the intention of the supporters page?
As far as my design, I've got a rough draft of the
* Evilpig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 12:27 -0500]:
> I would be happy to work on either of these. Is IRC a good place to
> chat about this, or should stuff like this be discussed on the list or
> in private email? I think it's nice for everyone to be able to help
> out if they want, so if o
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 19:04 +0200]:
> Erinn Clark wrote:
> > 1) The supporters page.
>
> Again, I'm willing to.
It's all yours. I will not be surprised if we have more men on the
supporters page than we do on the profiles page. So let's get started on
changing that ASAP, ladie
* Nori Heikkinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 13:12 -0400]:
> wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short
> bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you mean users like us, or
> high-powered women in tech, or ... ?
I decided that it would be better to highlight wo
Am Freitag, 23.07.04 um 03:53 Uhr schrieb Amaya:
What browser are you using? I see that on black...
It's white on purple here, too, with Safari on Mac. Just unreadable.
And the page does not validate. That makes the page look different on
different browsers.
http://validator.w3.org/check?u
Nori Heikkinen wrote:
> wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short
> bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you mean users like us, or
> high-powered women in tech, or ... ?
Yes, but I would want to make a difference between Profiles and Success
Histories. "How fre
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 12:28:46 -0400, Erinn Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sure, I want content. I asked a few weeks ago, but not many people
> volunteered to take responsibility for the sections, so I figured I wasn't
> clear enough or that maybe I needed to put out a skeleton website so people
on Fri, 23 Jul 2004 06:59:18PM +0200, Amaya insinuated:
> Are you out there? Want to share your success stories on free
> software? Wouldn't that be great content for our site?
wasn't one of the things that i recall erinn asking for a set of short
bios of women in tech? by that, erinn, did you m
Erinn Clark wrote:
> 1) The supporters page.
Again, I'm willing to.
> As far as my design, I've got a rough draft of the general FAQ here:
> http://cytosine.org/~helix/dw/faqs/ .. the main page is just random
> text to check the basic design. I've not quite figured out what to do
> with the fron
Hi there, long email ahead, be warned!
Almut Behrens wrote:
> hmm, I think, if we're going to have more than one design proposal for
> the site (which isn't necessarily bad per se, IMHO), I'd suggest we
> also have a somewhat formalised way of coordinating efforts and
> choosing upon the final des
* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 17:31 +0200]:
> Please, please, please!!!
> Can I help you on that? Do you want content? Just ask!
Sure, I want content. I asked a few weeks ago, but not many people
volunteered to take responsibility for the sections, so I figured I wasn't
clear enough or
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 17:47:58 +0200, Almut Behrens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> hmm, I think, if we're going to have more than one design proposal
> for the site (which isn't necessarily bad per se, IMHO), I'd suggest
> we also have a somewhat formalised way of coordinating efforts and
> choosing up
On Thu, Jul 22, 2004 at 09:29:33PM -0700, Carla Schroder wrote:
> On Thursday 22 July 2004 6:28 pm, Amaya wrote:
> > Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate" site.
> >
> > http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/
> >
> > Please send us feedback :-)
> >
>
> Ok, I'm confused. Erinn is a
Erinn Clark wrote:
> I'll "unveil" my design soon, once I have more content up.
Please, please, please!!!
Can I help you on that? Do you want content? Just ask!
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* Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004:07:23 14:32 +0200]:
> Erinn, please don't be angry. Zazu submitted this to me privately and I
> just act as a proxy and want to share it with you. This doesn't have to
> be the website look or anything, but rather proof of concept that there
> are far more women o
Erinn Clark wrote:
> Supporters page:
> - Anyone want to take care of this?
If this is not taken, I'd love to
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Miriam Ruiz wrote:
> some comments: 1) why "debian womAn" instead of "debian
> womEn"?
Zazu doesn't speak English :-) She wouldn't know the difference!
> 2) I agree with what has been said about the size of the fonts, a bit
> small but it's readable here
It may not be readable to every single
Erinn Clark wrote:
> I've already begun working on the site. This is a duplicated effort,
> for no apparent reason. Why didn't you (or Zazu) reply to my original
> mail(s) about the website design? The one where I said I was going to
> work on it?
Erinn, please don't be angry. Zazu submitted this
nicole wrote:
> The banner is nice and all, but what about the ones we already had
> designed by our lovely dana? I thought we had decided on those.
The problem is that Zazu doesn't speak English.
She didn't know about the other logos. She's not suscribed to this list.
She just spontaneously set
--- Amaya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió:
> Zazu is working on a beta look for our "corporate"
> site.
>
> http://www.opensource-knowhow.com/amaya/
>
> Please send us feedback :-)
I like it very much, I asked another girl here and she
does too (I'm at Euskal, a LAN Party, right now). Just
some
I would like to help. Perhaps we can coordinate for this. Did I lost which
software
are we will use for the website? Anyway i understand this like trying to move
forward :)
I think is great to impulse the discussion about this.
About the design, i like pink but i like to put the logo we agree.
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