[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian T. Sniffen) writes:
>
>> DMCA 1201(a)(1)(A): No person shall circumvent a technological
>> measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under
>> this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sente
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Brian T. Sniffen) writes:
> DMCA 1201(a)(1)(A): No person shall circumvent a technological
> measure that effectively controls access to a work protected under
> this title. The prohibition contained in the preceding sentence shall
> take effect at the end of the 2-year period
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:09:10AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
>> > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> >
>> > > This is an arbitrary distinction that has no clear basis in the law.
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:09:10AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> > Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >
> > > This is an arbitrary distinction that has no clear basis in the law.
> > > You are also circumventing CSS by playing the DVD
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:05:02PM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
>
> I'm not absolutely clear what distinction Steve's referring to, but I
> assumed it was the distinction between decoding+copying and
> decoding+playing. My understanding is that it's the decoding (i.e.,
> the circumvention) that's
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Thomas Bushnell, BSG) writes:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> This is an arbitrary distinction that has no clear basis in the
>> law. You are also circumventing CSS by playing the DVD in question
>> (viewing is also a form of "access"). Remember that CSS is a
>
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 09:09:10AM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote:
> Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > This is an arbitrary distinction that has no clear basis in the law.
> > You are also circumventing CSS by playing the DVD in question (viewing
> > is also a form of "access").
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> This is an arbitrary distinction that has no clear basis in the law.
> You are also circumventing CSS by playing the DVD in question (viewing
> is also a form of "access"). Remember that CSS is a standard developed
> by a consortium of DVD *player manu
I'll upload Drip to main when its independant of libdvdcss (through
libdvdread), and other technical issues are solved.
As for libdvdcss, see the other thread.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 07:02:16AM -0400, Joe Moore wrote:
> Robert Millan said:
> > This is what the DMCA reads:
> >
> > "(2) No perso
Robert Millan said:
> This is what the DMCA reads:
>
> "(2) No person shall [...] import, [...] any technology, product, service,
> device, component or part thereof,
[ like Drip+libdvdread+libdvdcss ]
>
> Anyway I find this discussion much useless, since the DMCA can't be
> applied to non-us.
n
This seems like a big can of worms. I think i'll just fix the
bogus direct dependency on libdvdcss for Drip and bring Drip
into Debian for now..
thanks all for your help.
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 08:01:21PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:49:48AM +, Robert Millan wr
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:49:48AM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:14:53PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:02:36AM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> > > Whatever. The fact is that when we put Drip, libdvdread and libdvdcss
> > > together we obtain wh
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 06:14:53PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:02:36AM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> > Whatever. The fact is that when we put Drip, libdvdread and libdvdcss
> > together we obtain what what the DMCA calls a "circumvention device for
> > copyright protec
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 01:02:36AM +, Robert Millan wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:21:22AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> > > $ ldd /usr/bin/drip | grep libdvdcss
> > > libdvdcss.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2 (0x4019a000)
> >
> >Linking drip with libdvdcss is utterly useless s
On Wed, Jul 30, 2003 at 12:21:22AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
>
> > $ ldd /usr/bin/drip | grep libdvdcss
> > libdvdcss.so.2 => /usr/lib/libdvdcss.so.2 (0x4019a000)
>
>Linking drip with libdvdcss is utterly useless since drip does not
> use any libdvdcss function.
Ok, I understand. I'l
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003, Robert Millan wrote:
> >Uh? I suggest you have a more precise look at the Drip source code
> > and see how exactly it uses libdvdcss. My understanding is that it does
> > not at all: it only uses libdvdread.
>
> No, autoconf checks for libdvdcss and if found Drip is linke
On Tue, Jul 29, 2003 at 10:19:53AM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 28, 2003, Robert Millan wrote:
>
> > It is important to note that libdvdcss is _NOT_ part of Drip. There are
> > unofficial libdvdcss packages around, and I added them to Build-Conflicts
> > to ensure Drip is not accidental
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003, Robert Millan wrote:
> It is important to note that libdvdcss is _NOT_ part of Drip. There are
> unofficial libdvdcss packages around, and I added them to Build-Conflicts
> to ensure Drip is not accidentaly linked against it.
Uh? I suggest you have a more precise look at
Hi Sam,
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 07:52:57PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> I continue to believe that like other packages already in Debian,
> supporting libdvdcss if it is found is perfectly reasonable. If you
> manage to dlopen it and find the right symbols, use it.
>
> If someone complains, we c
I continue to believe that like other packages already in Debian,
supporting libdvdcss if it is found is perfectly reasonable. If you
manage to dlopen it and find the right symbols, use it.
If someone complains, we can reevaluate the situation at that point.
[ Please CC me, I'm not subscribed ]
Hello!
I'm finishing the initial release of the Drip debian package (ITP #156287)
which is almost ready for upload. The only resting nitpick is a possible
legal problem.
The README.Debian I'm pasting below explains for itself, I think everything
should be ok
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