Re: Re: Willingness to share a position statement?

It's not like it's a call to silence him forever. It is however a call to remove him from a position he appears to be unfit for. I agree with everything you are saying, but I note that the wording of the open letter is much harsher, with statements like "our communities have *no space* for peopl

Re: Announcing new decision making procedures for Debian

* Andrei POPESCU [2021-04-01 11:19]: Bonus points for writing the entire reply as an attached .doc, or even better .ppt, file (MS Office 1997 version or earlier). Kindly refer to the EBCDIC encoded WordStar document on my dial-in BBS for a thorough rebuttal. Cheers Timo signature.asc Descri

Re: What does FD Mean

* Mathias Behrle [2021-04-03 10:22]: [ ] Further discussion [ ] Do nothing, leave the question unresolved [ ] None of the above The way I see it, all these have the same consequence for a vote (that is, none of the other options is acceptable). The Constitution will always permit another vote

Re: What does FD Mean

e for systemd and were indifferent among the alternatives. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403

Re: What does FD Mean

on, please vote again with a corrected ballot." Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C

Re: What does FD Mean

art is how the winner is determined from the votes. I don't think many people will bother to independently verify the results. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97

Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result

ually happening: to prevent us from ever having to make such an embarrassing press release. Maybe a public statement in the name of all developers should require more than a simple 1:1 majority? Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Rö

Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result

default versus those who do not. As you can see in the DPL election, both candidates achieved 4:1 majority, which would be impossible with a simple plurality vote. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling

Re: General Resolution: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board result

* Roberto C. Sánchez [2021-04-18 16:10]: 3:1 majority That would put a public statement on par with a change in the Constitution, which is a political statement in itself. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling

Re: Draft proposal for resolution process changes

For that reason, I would also change 6.3.1.2 to read "Any member of the Technical Committee may *propose* additional ballot options", which also makes it consistent with the phrasing in A.1.1.2 Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────

Re: Draft proposal for resolution process changes

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Re: Draft proposal for resolution process changes

suck at Chess). Being able to outmaneuver proceedings by some unforeseen interaction of rules might be enjoyable for a courtroom movie, but it will invariably create "winners" and "losers", which is not a desirable social outcome. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭

Re: Draft proposal for resolution process change (v2)

ntity. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄ ╰╯ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Renaming the FTP Masters

lso happily ratify their choice via GR if they felt that the whole project should have a say. What I do not want is force a GR decision upon them. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │

Re: Draft GR for resolution process changes

he amended version. 6. Any version that lacks the required number of sponsors will be withdrawn. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD

Re: Draft GR for resolution process changes

lize or the option will be discarded; no additional procedural rules required. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (corrected)

dard Resolution Procedure is to be used, the text which refers to it must specify who has a casting vote, the quorum, the default option, and any supermajority requirement. The default option must not have any supermajority requirements. Seconded. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭──

Re: GR: Change the resolution process (2021-11-25 revision)

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Re: Secret Ballots: How Secret

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Re: Reaffirm public voting

voting behavior of individual DDs). Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄ ╰╯ signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Reaffirm public voting

osen key" attack. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄ ╰───

Re: GR Ballot Option: Allow, but do not require, secret voting

minor changes to that I sponsor this ballot option in its amended form. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA

Re: Results for Voting secrecy

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Re: Changing how we handle non-free firmware

ing.debian.org/debian-buildd/dists/buildd-unstable [5] https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2022/04/msg00214.html -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com You raise the blade, you make the change... You re-arrange me 'til I'm sane... Seconde

Re: new proposal: free and and non-free installers with SC change

; has been replaced with "alongside".) Seconded. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA │ ⠈⠳⣄ ╰

Re: On community and conflicts

rebutted often enough that it might qualify for a Debian extension to Godwin's law. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

different arrangement in mind? Again, thank you your for work on this! Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD 1403 F4CA

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

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Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

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Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

the source package from the signed Git tag. Cheers Timo -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ │ Timo Röhling │ ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ │ 9B03 EBB9 8300 DF97 C2B1 23BF CC8C 6BDD

Re: [RFC] General Resolution to deploy tag2upload

ill, it depends whether you consider it sufficient to compare the (extracted) source trees or if you want to be able to reconstruct a bit-identical copy of the source package tarballs. -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ╭────╮ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁