sion, but
nevertheless the problem exists in a different form -- lacking an
'exutive' summary of the discussion.
Thank you for considering this,
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I hereby nominate myself for the position of Debian Project Leader for
the upcoming term.
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ink that was the right decision?
> Why did somebody have to notice that DPL team activity reports had
> stopped some time ago before anybody on the team publicly admitted
> this?
It happened in the beginning, but due to fixed meetings stopping, also
the whole pre- and post-meeting bits unfo
t I don't feel other candidates will scratch, I will surely
run again. Having had the feeling of what is involved for a year, I
think I already now can say that I won't just give up and drop out.
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in Debian. At least the latter thing
definitely seems to be the root for the whole "What should
Derivates^WUbuntu do with the Maintainer field" issue.
I think we should be confident in our own distribution.
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is alive and
kicking, and still doing great things;
- by making sure that Debian people are much more aware of all the nice
little projects and things happening inside Debian;
- and last but not least, by helping innovative things to actually
happen by increasing productivity and via that crea
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:49:37PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> If you had to summarize your platform with 3 keywords, what would they be ?
Communication, communication, communication.
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avoid being a hypocrite?
About this important: ||
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tform. The tags are only an aide,
and are not critical (c.f. my only sin with my platform, I used ,
which doesn't exist -- and that you fixed to after noticing that
and informing me).
While I like being a perfectionist in a lot of areas, it's undoable to
be one in avery aspect, so one n
that are not broken. Of course as ftp-master team
member, I will keep following this and helping where help is requested,
but that has not much to do with myself as potential DPL or as current
DPL team member.
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elected. Which is quite logical, because I've only put things I want
to persue *as DPL* in my platform. I'm not running for DPL to have a
vote on my other Debian work, I'll keep doing that regardless -- things
like QA, ftp-master team tasks, and of course packaging, and a load of
oth
a DPL should not want to
micro-manage.
It's not something I see as a priority to improve though, I don't think
the current situation is unaccepteable or so. Our real releases are much
more important. As DPL, I want to focus most of my energy on a limited
amount of areas, better do a
er with internet connection and join a Debian
list].
Is this limiting freedom of speech? No, I don't think so. Does this
help against a very limited amount of people frustrating productive
discussions? Certainly it does. Debian lists are special purpose lists:
they each have specific intentions.
if anyone
feels compelled for that position, please send my a private mail).
Anyway, I trust that you, the NM team, can work constructively on
possible changes, with whoever is interested in it. I'll assist where
requested, but not going to personally initiate much in this area as DPL
or as individual.
-
here where the real work gets done. Not in the position that
IMHO should merely ensure the real work can be done in the best possible
circumstances.
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an answer, instead of silence -- although I did talk with you
privately multiple times about the issue since. Anyway, unless you want
to followup relevant for -vote, I suggest we'll continue this discussion
privately over a beer or something.
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re were a publicly available
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promising to have simply leader@ pointed to the whole team.
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volunteer projects like Debian. People scratch their itches, and if some
itch isn't bothering anyone enough to be scratched, it'll remain.
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e consequences of the procedure, and the negative
consequences of someone remaining DD.
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On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 11:42:36AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 04:02:02AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 02:13:42PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > During DPL campaigning, it seems "in" for candidates t
should gain themselves some auto-update feature if
it's really predicteable to be needed numerous times during the lifetime
of a package to have new data files. I don't have a particularly strong
opinion on this though, but I'm a bit wary for having too many suites
for users, w
n a few days. I'll still allow the DPL team members
to pick up things they want to pick up as far as they can do so without
special privileges, as they see fit.
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didn't want to bother James at all w.r.t. this
question. After all, as far as I can briefly see, the last >2 week gap
between keyring updates was a year ago, no updates between 25 Feb and 18
Mar 2005. Such track record is actually quite impressive. Kudos, James!
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rwarded to the whole team.
In addition, I'll *actively* sollicit feedback every 3 months, and post
results.
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t be spending much DPL-time on either type of releases. I'll
closely follow them, especially the etch release, and spend time on it
if I think there are problems I need to give attention to. I think and
hope it won't be needed, the people in charge of the releases are very
competent.
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 11:41:42AM +, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > I don't think it'd be particularly well-recieved if someone who, after
> > all, was not elected, would assume leadership. Regardless of the
question a problem?
Not on itself. Bottlenecks are the responsability of a whole team.
It does make sense to consider current commitments of each candidate for
a given job. But this is also the responsability of the candidate to
judge.
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On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 10:22:54PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
> 1.) What is your opinion regarding the current status of debian-volatile?
> [...]
Please see the bottom of [1] for my opinion.
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unwilling to comply.
I'd like to emphasise, as you later noted, that this was not something
the DPL team wanted. Andreas discussed this within the DPL team, and I
told Andreas in November very clearly that I thought it was a very bad
idea.
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e voters.
I don't understand, identical teams or not, there would've been two
candidates with a team? Are the other five candidates all fools, or
running to become a figure head?
If that's what you wanted to write, I strongly disagree.
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[2] http://www.debian.org/vote/2002/platforms/raphael
[3] http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/
[4] http://people.debian.org/~enrico/dcg/
[5] http://www.debian.org/vote/2005/platforms/branden
[6] http://www.debian.org/vote/2002/platforms/bdale
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On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 01:20:19PM +, Neil McGovern wrote:
> If you were elected tomorrow as DPL, and could only pick one thing about
> Debian to change, what would it be?
Make our mailinglists an enjoyable place for technical discussions.
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astructural (legal, trademarks, money, possessions), and not
directly related to creating a distribution. I don't think that's a real
problem.
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On Sat, Mar 11, 2006 at 10:06:31PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Are there possible conflicts of interests between Debian and your "real
> life" ($WORKPLACE, whatever)?
No.
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one when there couldn't be an agreement any other
way.
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or various reasons, but was at least for me a useful
experience to learn from, and has in part shaped my ideas based on which
I'm running for DPL.
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event. If
possible, I would strip personally-identifiable information before
forwarding too.
> Is there a distinction to be drawn between your own email address and
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orld peace also doesn't require being DPL, and many people try,
but just being secretary of the UN makes you more effective.
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ion, but also in forms that make
> such modifications practical; and
>
> 3. supports the decision of the Release Team to require works such as
> images, video, and fonts to be licensed in compliance with the DFSG without
> requiring source code for these works under DFSG #2;
Debian.
> If this DPL's best does not include revising his proposals or seeking
> compromise, then it's time for a new DPL. This will get support for
> more than the Dunk Tank reason.
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is IMHO a pretty decent attempt at l
* and here it starts again...
>
> And you have again to comment on it right ?
Oh, the irony. Mike Hommey: 1st mail on -vote this month. Sven Luther:
42nd mail this month on -vote. This month is barely more than 5 days
old.
Sven, you're flooding. Again. Please stop that. Now.
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y insane.
I'd rather have a DPL that can prioritize and spend his time on what
would benefit the project the most than one that'd try to do everything
at the same time as good as it gets -- and running the risk of in the
end not achieving much at all.
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is already that
anyone can easily make that services useless for anybody else.
And what happens to be one of the advantages of Debian? Its multi-arch
support... Even for non-free.
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On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:46:50PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:33:08PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > And what happens to be one of the advantages of Debian? Its multi-arch
> > support... Even for non-free.
>
> Non-free does not get auto
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 02:21:22PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:33:08PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Sourceforge has a compile farm[1], and Debian has numerous machines DD's
> > can login too[2]. Not everybody has 11 different arches i
nt a vote now, and no poll
> to delay it.
Let's vote about whether to vote or to poll. Or would it be better to
organize a poll about that issue?
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7; (how silly its name may sound, it is quite
insightful), will be pointed to the fact they do expose women-unfriendly
behaviour from time to time, without realizing it.
Hope this helps,
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 02:10:46AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 04:08:37AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > It now turns out that Anthony Towns based his sarge-ignore policy on his
> > reading of the Social Contract.
>
> I'm insult
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 02:31:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:19:10PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Abiding the SC is a duty of the whole project, not just of Release
> > Manager.
>
> So why does the whole project seem shocked
ently added, I didn't
have the time to look through the whole threads at that time whether
there maybe was a good reason for that, rather than solving the same
issue in a different way
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is already that
anyone can easily make that services useless for anybody else.
And what happens to be one of the advantages of Debian? Its multi-arch
support... Even for non-free.
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On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:46:50PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:33:08PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > And what happens to be one of the advantages of Debian? Its multi-arch
> > support... Even for non-free.
>
> Non-free does not get auto
On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 02:21:22PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 06, 2004 at 07:33:08PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Sourceforge has a compile farm[1], and Debian has numerous machines DD's
> > can login too[2]. Not everybody has 11 different arches i
nt a vote now, and no poll
> to delay it.
Let's vote about whether to vote or to poll. Or would it be better to
organize a poll about that issue?
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7; (how silly its name may sound, it is quite
insightful), will be pointed to the fact they do expose women-unfriendly
behaviour from time to time, without realizing it.
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On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 02:10:46AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2004 at 04:08:37AM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > It now turns out that Anthony Towns based his sarge-ignore policy on his
> > reading of the Social Contract.
>
> I'm insult
On Fri, Apr 30, 2004 at 02:31:23PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2004 at 11:19:10PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Abiding the SC is a duty of the whole project, not just of Release
> > Manager.
>
> So why does the whole project seem shocked
ently added, I didn't
have the time to look through the whole threads at that time whether
there maybe was a good reason for that, rather than solving the same
issue in a different way
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how to vote? Hit reply, fill in you
preferences after carefully researching them, and send).
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On Wed, Jun 30, 2004 at 12:30:37AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 02:16:57PM +0200, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 25, 2004 at 06:00:36PM -0500, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
> > > Mail-Followup-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
> > &g
decide between the options given.
>
> You should have voted for Choice 7
That's wrong, voting for 7 means the voter dislikes all options, and
wants either some other resolution, or no resolution. Leaving a ballot
blank is a common way to say: "I'll let others decide, I don't
x27;re doing suspiciously
looks like a slander campaign. Branden has as far as I can see, nowhere
done any public DPL-platform like statements in this month.
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eference the name sucks for multiple reasons (toy story names are for
releases, not for different stuff, and scud the dog isn't friendly, ...)
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ng for people is necessarily a more personal affair than voting for
something more abstract like a GR about the constitution.
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2005 at 04:55:35PM -0800, Robert Woodcock wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 25, 2005 at 12:27:11AM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:
> > Eh, the buyer can demand proof, the same proof a voter has to verify his
> > vote is tallied: ask the secret token. Assuming md5 is a strong
expand
(I couldn't find a regular tarball release unfortunately)
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