> On 2021-03-28 20:23:38 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 à 15:35:42+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
In my previous letter, I’ve presented my general concerns about
the ‘open letter’ that Choice 1 seeks to ratify; irrespective
(more or less
Jonathan Wiltshire wrote on 31/03/2021:
This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to
support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel
strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk overtaking
this GR; Debian already has enoug
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
>
> This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
> our constitution, section 4.1.5.
>
> The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation
> are, and should
Hi all,
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 11:28:47PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> This is a late amendment proposal which I hope seconders will feel able to
> support in time for it to make the ballot paper. It is late because I feel
> strongly that events in the past few days [1] [2] [3] [4] risk ove
Le mercredi 31 mars 2021 à 06:48:45+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
> > On 2021-03-28 20:23:38 +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> > Le dimanche 28 mars 2021 à 15:35:42+, Ivan Shmakov a écrit :
>
> In my previous letter, I’ve presented my general concerns about
> the ‘open le
Jonathan Wiltshire writes:
> CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
>
> This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
> our constitution, section 4.1.5.
>
> The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation
> are, and should be, held to the highest standards of ac
Sergey B Kirpichev writes:
> Obviously, you want to turn the Debian into something "more than
> that". But have you fixed all bugs in the packages you do support?)
Is this how you behave when discussing political matters in general too?
"This one important problem isn't fully resolved, therefo
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On 3/30/21 6:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
[...]
>
> CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
>
> This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
> our constitution, section 4.1.5.
>
> The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any pr
On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 11:59 +0200, Gard Spreemann wrote:
>
> Sergey B Kirpichev writes:
>
> > Obviously, you want to turn the Debian into something "more than
> > that". But have you fixed all bugs in the packages you do
> > support?)
>
> Is this how you behave when discussing political matter
Le mercredi 31 mars 2021 à 16:41:50+0200, Pasha a écrit :
> On Wed, 2021-03-31 at 11:59 +0200, Gard Spreemann wrote:
> >
> > Sergey B Kirpichev writes:
> >
> > > Obviously, you want to turn the Debian into something "more than
> > > that". But have you fixed all bugs in the packages you do
> >
> I stopped reading after "Thought Criminal" ...
> Honestly, do what you want, but Trumpist
"I decide who is a jew in the airforce" (c)
This trans is a wrong trans, isn't?
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 06:52:49PM +0300, Sergey B Kirpichev wrote:
>> I stopped reading after "Thought Criminal" ...
>> Honestly, do what you want, but Trumpist
>
>"I decide who is a jew in the airforce" (c)
>
>This trans is a wrong trans, isn't?
Sergey: I don't know where you're going down this
Le mercredi 31 mars 2021 à 18:52:49+0300, Sergey B Kirpichev a écrit :
> > I stopped reading after "Thought Criminal" ...
> > Honestly, do what you want, but Trumpist
>
> "I decide who is a jew in the airforce" (c)
>
> This trans is a wrong trans, isn't?
I could be wrong, but it seems to me that
[...]
> >
> > Libreboot explanation can be helpful here:
> >
> > https://libreboot.org/news/rms.html
>
> I stopped reading after "Thought Criminal", "accused of defending rape
> in an Orwellian smear campaign" and "orchestrated by mainstream media".
Lucky you, as it goes deeper on such nonsene
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
our constitution, section 4.1.5.
The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation
are, and should be, held to the highest standards
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
our constitution, section 4.1.5.
The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation
are, and should be, held to the highest standards
On 3/31/21 1:20 AM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 08:13:59PM -0500, Richard Laager wrote:
On 3/30/21 5:28 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
We urge Richard Stallman and the remaining members of the board which
reinstated him, to consider their positions.
Can you elaborate on th
This option is now also on the website.
Kurt
Sergey B Kirpichev, 2021-03-31 11:53 -0400:
> "I decide who is a jew in the airforce" (c)
>
> This trans is a wrong trans, isn't?
huh?
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Taowa (they)
LOC FN35EM
Hello,
On Tue 30 Mar 2021 at 11:28PM +01, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> CHOICE TEXT FOLLOWS:
>
> This is a position statement of the Debian Developers in accordance with
> our constitution, section 4.1.5.
>
> The Developers firmly believe that leaders in any prominent organisation
> are, and should
Hello Debian Members,
For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR
discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need
to be. Having a chilling effect to using GRs hurts Debian, and as a
project we need a way to poll for consensus on project choices and
dire
On 3/31/21 6:52 PM, Enrico Zini wrote:
[...]
>
> To avoid confusion, we'll maintain the same acronym as before. The new
> system will be called Debian Grandiose Reflection.
>
At least there will be no confusion!?!
Milan
How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a
debian user, curious about the new process.
Also, doesn't this give more influence to those developers with more time
to write more mails, if the number of messages will be taken into account?
(If this message breaks the ma
On 3/31/21 6:52 PM, Enrico Zini wrote:
[...]
>
> * When the discussion eventually dies down, the Debian Secretary will
>review all messages and pronounce the winner.
>
[...]
\o/ Finally, it was about the time to get this right once and for all.
Milan
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 09:12:24AM +1100, Dmitry Smirnov wrote:
> On Wednesday, 24 March 2021 11:38:25 PM AEDT Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Freedom of speech does *not* mean freedom from consequences.
> Here is a good reply to this very statement:
> ~~~
> "Freedom of speech is supposed to imply free
On 1 Apr 2021, at 00:06, Alejandro Nadal wrote:
>
> How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a
> debian user, curious about the new process.
Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demonstrate your passion.
Comparisons to communism, genocides and nazis are
On 2021-03-31 19 h 12, Jessica Clarke wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 00:06, Alejandro Nadal wrote:
>>
>> How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a
>> debian user, curious about the new process.
>
> Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demonstrate your passi
Regarding the following, written by "Jessica Clarke" on 2021-04-01 at 00:12 Uhr
+0100:
Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demonstrate your passion.
Comparisons to communism, genocides and nazis are all particularly strong.
It's also become increasingly obvious that men are useless
On 3/31/21 7:12 PM, Jessica Clarke wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 00:06, Alejandro Nadal wrote:
>>
>> How will "the strength of the wording" be measured? I am not a DD, just a
>> debian user, curious about the new process.
>
> Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demonstrate your passi
someone can remind me please how to unsuscribe from.the deb lists pls this
is annoying
El mié., 31 de mar. de 2021 20:49, martin f krafft
escribió:
> Regarding the following, written by "Jessica Clarke" on 2021-04-01 at
> 00:12 Uhr +0100:
>
> Swearing and personal attacks are great ways to demon
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 07:31:12PM -0400, Louis-Philippe Véronneau wrote:
> Just to be crystal clear if it wasn't already, this is all satire.
I think, aeh, hope, this is the funniest message today.
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cheers,
Holger
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> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021, 19:53 Enrico Zini wrote:
> Hello Debian Members,
>
> For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR
> discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need
> to be. Having a chilling effect to using GRs hurts Debian, and as a
> project we
So,
Em 31/03/2021 19:52, Enrico Zini escreveu:
Hello Debian Members,
* The more messages a person writes, the more the person cares, and the
more their opinion will be taken into account: people who only write
every once in a while, clearly don't think the issue is important
enough
On 3/31/21 8:33 PM, Daniel Lenharo de Souza wrote:
> So,
>
> Em 31/03/2021 19:52, Enrico Zini escreveu:
>> Hello Debian Members,
>> * The more messages a person writes, the more the person cares, and the
>> more their opinion will be taken into account: people who only write
>> every onc
> Please stop now.
Or?...
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 06:24:52PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote:
> I could be wrong, but it seems to me that you still are on a debian
> mailing list while you clearly stated you wanted to sever your ties with
> Debian.
And what's wrong? Anyone can participate in the discussion, isn't?
One
Hi Enrico!
This is truly brilliant.
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 12:52:53AM +0200, Enrico Zini wrote:
> Hello Debian Members,
>
> For some time, we have been having systemic issues that make GR
> discussions painful. GRs themselves shouldn't be painful, and don't need
> to be. Having a chilling effec
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