Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Ansgar
Hi, a lot of communication in Debian happens over IRC. However IRC is not as nice to use as newer alternatives, creating a barrier for newer contributors. Do you think Debian should be more active to establish (official) presence on newer platforms? A disadvantage is splitting the community, bu

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Ansgar" == Ansgar writes: Ansgar> Hi, a lot of communication in Debian happens over IRC. Ansgar> However IRC is not as nice to use as newer alternatives, Ansgar> creating a barrier for newer contributors. Ansgar> Do you think Debian should be more active to establish

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Ansgar On 2019/03/25 18:54, Ansgar wrote: > a lot of communication in Debian happens over IRC. However IRC is not > as nice to use as newer alternatives, creating a barrier for newer > contributors. > > Do you think Debian should be more active to establish (official) > presence on newer plat

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread martin f krafft
Quoting "Sam Hartman", who wrote on 2019-03-25 at 13:09 Uhr -0400: I've been looking at Matrix too and it seems kind of nice. There already seem to be a number of channels related to Debian (or gatewayed from oftc) on Matrix. One benefit of Matrix is that there are a lot of bridges, and the I

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread martin f krafft
Quoting "Jonathan Carter", who wrote on 2019-03-25 at 20:42 Uhr +0200: It's a free software alternative to Slack, but it's not a mere copy, Mattermost is a superset of Slack in terms of features. Mattermost integrates with many different existing services. In particular, it also integrates real

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
On 3/25/19 8:16 PM, martin f krafft wrote: > Yes, I am a huge Matrix evangelist. And why wouldn't I? Does Matrix allow a client to be idling on some server to act as a bouncer? I usually run Weechat on a server and never log off. Adrian -- .''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz : :' : Debian Devel

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Ansgar
martin f krafft writes: > Quoting "Sam Hartman", who wrote on 2019-03-25 at 13:09 Uhr -0400: >> I've been looking at Matrix too and it seems kind of nice. There >> already seem to be a number of channels related to Debian (or >> gatewayed from oftc) on Matrix. > > One benefit of Matrix is that ther

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Martin On 2019/03/25 21:16, martin f krafft wrote: > Quoting "Jonathan Carter", who wrote on 2019-03-25 at 20:42 Uhr +0200: >> It's a free software alternative to Slack, but it's not a mere copy, >> Mattermost is a superset of Slack in terms of features. Mattermost >> integrates with many diffe

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread martin f krafft
Quoting "John Paul Adrian Glaubitz", who wrote on 2019-03-25 at 20:23 Uhr +0100: Does Matrix allow a client to be idling on some server to act as a bouncer? There's matrix-ircd, which is in theory a client that acts as an IRCd. I write "in theory" because it's abandonware. But otherwise with

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Jonathan Carter (2019-03-25 20:20:11) > Hi Martin > > On 2019/03/25 21:16, martin f krafft wrote: > > And while surely not representative: 11 out of 12 teams I personally > > know who looked at Matrix and Mattermost a couple of years back and > > went with Mattermost then are now migrati

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Laura Arjona Reina
Hi El 25/3/19 a las 19:42, Jonathan Carter escribió: > > Here are some of them many of you may already be familiar with. > > 1. Mastodon > > Mastodon is a twitter-like platform with a tweetdeck-like interface. > > More on Mastodon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) > Follow me

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Brian May
Ansgar writes: > As a simple test I tried to join #debian over the bridge. It doesn't > work out of the box as #debian need registered nicks. > > Figuring out how to register a nickname on OFTC over the Matrix bridge > and having to do that before joining a channel is a pretty high barrier. Thi

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 15352 March 1977, ans...@debian.org wrote: Do you think Debian should be more active to establish (official) presence on newer platforms? For those that are free, sure. In particular I also wonder if Debian should look at Matrix[1]: it is a free and decentralized platform, and the UI (of

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 25 Mar 2019, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > On 15352 March 1977, ans...@debian.org wrote: > > > Do you think Debian should be more active to establish (official) > > presence on newer platforms? > > For those that are free, sure. > > > In particular I also wonder if Debian should look at Matrix

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonas Meurer
Hi Alex, Alexander Wirt: >> While I agree that some "more modern" going way would be nice for lists, >> I don't think that is an easy task. Nor one where DPL can do much >> (unless listmasters need some resources that DPL can approve for such a >> change). Its up to the listmasters, though as far

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana
Hi, On 3/25/19 3:42 PM, Jonathan Carter wrote: > > There's a massive amount of interesting things happening in the space. > Matrix is good, but Mattermost is certainly worth looking at as well. > > https://mattermost.com/ > > It's a free software alternative to Slack, but it's not a mere copy,

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/03/25 22:27, Laura Arjona Reina wrote: >> More on Mastodon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) >> Follow me on Mastodon! :) https://mastodon.xyz/@highvoltage >> > > Debian is already in Mastodon (which federates with GNU Social): > > https://fosstodon.org/@debian > > (it's

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Jonathan Carter
On 2019/03/26 04:09, Paulo Henrique de Lima Santana wrote: > There is also Rocket.chat. > https://rocket.chat/ Not really the place for me to rant about rocketchat, but I've used and supported it before and wasn't impressed with its quality, it's one of those node.js spaghetti cases and if prese

Re: Debian presence on newer platforms

2019-03-25 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Tue, 26 Mar 2019, Jonas Meurer wrote: > Hi Alex, > > Alexander Wirt: > >> While I agree that some "more modern" going way would be nice for lists, > >> I don't think that is an easy task. Nor one where DPL can do much > >> (unless listmasters need some resources that DPL can approve for such a