Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Just to clarify what I meant for my suggestion, my chicken-dilemma-free suggestion would be this: Do a rank-balloting among all of the options, with D as one of the options.. Do a Schwartz Woodall count.among all the options. If D wins, or if the winner loses pairwise to D, or if the wnner doesn

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:56:49AM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: > Of course obviously, if Debian doesn't have a chicken dilemma, there's > no need for Debian to change its voting system from CSSD to Schwartz > Woodall. I think we do theoretically have this problem, and maybe we should change. B

My cycle definitionof Schwartz set is incorrect.

2013-05-14 Thread Michael Ossipoff
Sorry to bother you again, but I want to correct an error that I made, in a definition that I posted: I wanted to express the beatpath definition of the Schwartz set in a simpler and more compelling or appealing way, and the cycle definition (that I've posted here) seemed such a simplification. B

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Michael, On Thu, May 09, 2013 at 04:11:58PM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: > [quote] > However this seems quite a risky strategy by the B voters. The > situation seems contrived and unlikely to arise in practice. > [/quote] > But what if the B voters know for a fact that the A voters are > c

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 05:22:43PM -0500, Steve Langasek wrote: > Where can we find public, third-party review and analysis of the method you > propose (which seems to be a hybrid of other methods - so I'm not sure if it > can properly be called "Schwartz Woodall" or not?)? Whoops, sorry - I see

Re: Norman Petry and I (Ossipoff) recommended CSSD, but Schwartz Woodall is a better voting system for Debian

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Langasek
(With apologies to the non-Americans on -vote... :) On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 11:56:49AM -0400, Michael Ossipoff wrote: > One reason why I've been advocating Schwartz Woodal (along with > Woodall and Benham) is because, in official public government > elections, the chicken dilemma _would_ be a prob