Re: To all candidates: which way out of the project ?

2013-03-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-23 05:54, Paul Wise wrote: There are definitely people in that position (I can think of at least one), it would be interesting to quantify how many Debian members make no visible contributions, if for no other reason than making their contributions (if any) visible. Yes. But I wou

Re: To all candidates: which way out of the project ?

2013-03-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-22 23:23, Moray Allan wrote: As other replies have said, this seems to be much less of a solved problem in recent years Since someone asked: yes, this is an accidental blend from editing "seems to be a solved problem" insufficiently towards "seems to be much less of a problem". I'

Re: [all candidates] Advertising testing and security support

2013-03-23 Thread Gergely Nagy
Jérémy Bobbio writes: > Dear candidates, do you think it would be wise to advertise `testing` as > a usable distribution to our users given that state of affairs? Given > that our security support for stable is already not as best as it could > be, do you think we should encourage volunteers to b

Re: [all candidates] Advertising testing and security support

2013-03-23 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
Arno Töll: > On 19.03.2013 23:52, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: > > Given that our security support for stable is already not as best as > > it could be, do you think we should encourage volunteers to be more > > active in security support for testing? > > With due to respect, I disagree. From a user's pers

Re: [all candidates] discussions in -devel

2013-03-23 Thread Gergely Nagy
Serafeim Zanikolas writes: > In the words of Lars [*]: > > We're not very good at dealing with situations where a few individuals > are dominating the discussion by being loud, insistent, and unwilling to > budge > or to give any credence to opposing views. I don't know what to do ab

Re: [all candidates] lack of women in Debian

2013-03-23 Thread Gergely Nagy
Lucas Nussbaum writes: > On 19/03/13 at 21:43 +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: >> * Lucas Nussbaum [2013-03-19 07:44:32 CET]: >> > But it's also about how we see our project. I would like Debian to be >> > a very welcoming project, and I hate the fact that it's harder for some >> > groups to get inv

Re: To all candidates: which way out of the project ?

2013-03-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 23/03/13 at 12:46 +0300, Moray Allan wrote: > On 2013-03-23 05:54, Paul Wise wrote: > >There are definitely people in that position (I can think of at least > >one), it would be interesting to quantify how many Debian members > >make > >no visible contributions, if for no other reason than makin

Re: [all candidates] Advertising testing and security support

2013-03-23 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 19/03/13 at 23:52 +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote: > Hi! > > Lucas wrote in his plateform: > > For example, we have been providing a fairly good rolling release for > almost 13 years with testing, but we totally fail at advertising it as > something supported and usable by end users. > > Eve

Re: To all candidates: which way out of the project ?

2013-03-23 Thread Moray Allan
On 2013-03-23 19:16, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: On 23/03/13 at 12:46 +0300, Moray Allan wrote: Yes. But I would suggest that we should aim to build a really good contributor-tracking system Or improve the existing ones, such as the 'echelon' field in ldap (= last mailing list post), the mia db, ba