Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > Regarding my proposal, that is internal to Debian, I do not think that it is > impossible. What I propose is a way for package maintainers to signal that > their package is peripheral in the Debian system, in an opt-in manner. Debian > is r

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 05:46:49PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > I suppose I shouldn't really be discussing this too much since it's a > question for the DPL candidates rather than a general discussion topic, I believe this kind of interaction is perfectly fine, as it is showing various hidden face

Re: Q for the Candidates: How many users?

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 04:52:19AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > So at the start of the week, I asked: Eh, kudos for this "experiment", even if people on IRC commented that there might have been a second reason for your question :-P, I didn't see this coming. I feel like replying to a couple of y

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 03:17:03PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > In my experience, trivial RC bugs on not-so important packages attract > volunteers because it is very rewarding to close RC bugs. > So in my opinion, not all RC bugs are equal, and a better priority > system would be useful to help

planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Dear candidates, [I don't intend to start a flame war, but I do have venom for planets] planet.d.o has became one of the most visible media for Debian, if not the most visible one. Do you think it is a good thing? DFSG / rc-buggy ¨¨¨ I consider blogs as non-free, proprietary materi

Re: Question to the candidates

[ oops, looks like this one has slipped through the cracks of my mutt ] On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:49:53PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made > Debian a great operating system? I surely don't claim to embody all of the spirit and

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Hey, * Frank Lin PIAT [2010-03-27 13:44]: > [I don't intend to start a flame war, but I do have venom for planets] > > planet.d.o has became one of the most visible media for Debian, if not > the most visible one. Do you think it is a good thing? [...] On what are you basing this assumption? Whi

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Hi, Sorry if we are getting a little bit off-topic, feel free to follow up on debian-project (I would still be interested by the candidates PoV) On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 14:49 +0100, Nico Golde wrote: > Hey, > * Frank Lin PIAT [2010-03-27 13:44]: > > [I don't intend to start a flame war, but I do h

Re: Question for all candidates: Release process

Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:13:11PM +0800, Paul Wise a écrit : > > Does popcon not already provide a way to order packages based on > importance? rc-alert has both options for sorting bugs by both local & > global popcon score. Hi Paul, Popcon is definitely a potent indicator, but has its flaws a

Re: To all candidates: personal mentoring

Hi Serafeim, On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:15:45AM +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote: > Dear candidates, > > With respect to attracting new contributors, please ponder the idea of a > formal one-on-one mentoring scheme (as opposed to one-off interactions via > d-mentors). I tend to believe that what

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Le samedi 27 mars 2010 à 13:39 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit : > DFSG / rc-buggy > ¨¨¨ > I consider blogs as non-free, proprietary material (a very few have a > proper license, the "distribution" media s*cks anyway). > > Breaks DFSG #1: A document (HowTo...) published on planet can't

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 01:39:06PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > Dear candidates, > > [I don't intend to start a flame war, but I do have venom for planets] > > planet.d.o has became one of the most visible media for Debian, if not > the most visible one. Do you think it is a good thing? Not ne

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 01:39:06PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > planet.d.o has became one of the most visible media for Debian, if not > the most visible one. Do you think it is a good thing? Our Planet, like any other Planet out there, is just what it is: an aggregator of individual blogs. Peop

Re: Question to all candidates: How would you enforce Debian Community Guidelines?

Hi Hector, On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 05:55:35PM +0100, Hector Oron wrote: [...] > Secondly, I was wondering how Debian could make it easier for people > to contribute than other (derivatives and non-derivatives) > distributions. I came up with a really nice draft howto[1] When you say "I came up

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 04:03:06PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > I doubt that a lot of users are reading planet (why should they..). > > IT specialist and corporate consumers want to know what is going on for > the next release. Well, if they use planet.d.o for that, is their problem. Actually

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Nico Golde wrote: > when it comes to our users. I have no numbers to prove that but I doubt that > a > lot of users are reading planet (why should they..). Because: j...@gnu:~/tmp/xscreensaver-5.10>grep planet.debian.org -r . ./debian/patches/53_XScreenSaver.ad.in.patch:+*textURL: http

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, 2010-03-27 at 17:56 +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 27 mars 2010 à 13:39 +0100, Frank Lin PIAT a écrit : > > DFSG / rc-buggy > > ¨¨¨ > > I consider blogs as non-free, proprietary material (a very few have a > > proper license, the "distribution" media s*cks anyway).

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > I consider blogs as non-free, proprietary material (a very few have a > proper license, the "distribution" media s*cks anyway). I didn't notice a license on your email either. But every time I recall licenses of email being discussed, the conclusion has been that it doesn't

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Joey Hess wrote: > Because: > > j...@gnu:~/tmp/xscreensaver-5.10>grep planet.debian.org -r . > ./debian/patches/53_XScreenSaver.ad.in.patch:+*textURL: > http://planet.debian.org/rss20.xml > ./debian/changelog:+ Now use planet.debian.org instead of .net > > Which is run regularl

Re: Question about membership.

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: >> * Do you need to come up with a GR to change membership procedures, or is >> there >> a different way? > > I will cast a GR if I think it is needed. If I am wrong, the result will be > NOTA, and I will resign as DPL. You'd really resign

Question to all candidates: DPL's role in important package maintenance

Dear Candidates, First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections! At the outset, this question is not meant to be inflammatory or to express ire at a particular individual or set of individuals involved; I have great respect for the contributions of all involved in the community. On

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:57:41PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > May be some content could be moved to collaborative media, bts, etc > May be some "I am doing something" post could be turned into a news > May be that allowing comments should be a best practice "A corporate blog is jus

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

Frank Lin PIAT writes: > May be that allowing comments should be a best practice http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/comments.html -- Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject

Re: Question to all candidates: How would you enforce Debian Community Guidelines?

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a > post to debian-devel-announce with a set of guidelines for people to > follow when flamewars happen (and when they don't, in order to avoid > them). Why is sen

Re: Question to all candidates: How would you enforce Debian Community Guidelines?

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a > > post to debian-devel-announce with a set of guidelines for people to > > follow when flame

Re: Question about membership.

Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:42:24PM -0300, Margarita Manterola a écrit : > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 10:02 PM, Charles Plessy wrote: > > >> * Do you need to come up with a GR to change membership procedures, or is > >> there > >> a different way? > > > > I will cast a GR if I think it is needed. If

Re: Question to all candidates: How would you enforce Debian Community Guidelines?

On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 01:40:44AM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 05:26:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:47:13PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > However, as one of my initial actions as DPL, I do intend to submit a > > > post to debian-de

Re: planet.debian.org is RC buggy (?)

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > The content isn't archived. Is this a problem? a feature? Actually the text at least is archived (but not exactly like a mailing list), an example: http://planet.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi?terms=DPL -- bye, pabs http://wiki.debian.o