Hi!
The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
Best re
>> "Our users" includes not only an individual with a single computer who
>> never sees the source, but also derivative distributions, private
>> organizations, system administrators, etc, all of whom may need to
>> modify the source for their own purposes.
> Our users, if they want to modify, stu
* Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org) [100323 01:47]:
> AJ's question, and particularly his other longer response to the question
> about disappearing DPLs, really highlight what I think are some
> disagreements between he and I about how we see Debian. I fundamentally
> do not believe in the "grow or
* Stefano Zacchiroli (z...@debian.org) [100322 21:50]:
> All in all, this is probably a topic where a quick and easy
> devotee-based poll might show where the DD body stands in the trade-off
> between the advantages and disadvantages of enabling popcon submissions
> by default, and finally get this
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
> wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
> list. Since there isn't, allow me to ask a few questions myself.
FWIW, I disagree
* Wouter Verhelst (wou...@debian.org) [100319 22:57]:
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 10:36:53PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 06:44:23PM +, Clint Adams wrote:
> > > Is there any legitimate reason that wanna-build access should be
> > > restricted to any group smaller than
* Charles Plessy (ple...@debian.org) [100317 01:52]:
> I propose that we reshape the sections and priorities of our archive, so that
> it is easy to remove from Testing any RC bug that is not in a core pakcage,
> and is old and not tagged RFH.
We already do that, provided the RC bug is old enough.
* Yavor Doganov (ya...@gnu.org) [100317 14:55]:
> - mips/mipsel are probably the most hated archs by DDs in the past few
> months :-), and there's no ironclad way to secure their future too.
First of all, the needs-build queue is almost empty on mipsel (and was
on mips till we lost the hard disk
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
> to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
> they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
> the numbers up, burning the other
* Margarita Manterola (margamanter...@gmail.com) [100318 21:03]:
> I would like to support as many architectures as possible. We cannot
> deny the passage of time, however, and so we must accept that some
> architectures are bound to stop being supported. This even happened
> some years ago with
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:47:17AM +0100, Andreas Barth wrote:
> JFTR, I don't think that "a quick and easy poll" is always a
> sufficient way to resolve issues. I think one of the strength of
> Debian is that we try to analyze the situation before we do a
> decision.
I absolutely agree. On one ha
Dear all,
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
Cheers,
--
Charles
--
To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to de
Hi Charles,
Charles Plessy schrieb:
just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel free
to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
That opens up for an inte
On 24/03/10 00:27, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Our users, if they want to modify, study, redistribute or use after rebuild
> our
> system, need the source. At no moment these operations involve modifying a RFC
> or a binary program that is aimed at run on a Windows system. I conclude that
> that kind
Charles Plessy writes:
> just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory emails. Some
> of them may contain interesting questions or comments, though. Please feel
> free
> to repeat them in a separate message if you also found them interesting.
OK, so I do have a few followup q
Hi!
* Charles Plessy [2010-03-24 19:09:32 +0900]:
> just for the record, I will not answer to insulting or accusatory
> emails. Some of them may contain interesting questions or comments,
> though. Please feel free to repeat them in a separate message if you
> also found them interesting.
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:57:16AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
>> wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
>> list. Since
Hi,
On Dienstag, 23. März 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian
> > operating system. It is controversial.
> It is a lot but not controversial, actually its pretty clear.
> For that statement alone *I* hope NOTA will have a big win ove
Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote:
> I you would like to guarantee to the users that unpacked debian source
> is DFSG we should hook into unpack (similar to DpkgSrc3.0 / quilt) and
> remove DFSG blobs at maintainers discretion for example by parsing
> debian/copyright.
> [...]
> This change will result in mai
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:00:38PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Dienstag, 23. März 2010, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> > > The second option aims at clarifying what is the source of the Debian
> > > operating system. It is controversial.
> > It is a lot but not controversial, actually its pre
On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:32:19 +, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote
> 2. If tarball is not redistributable
> It belongs in non-free, or must be repackaged to become redistributable
No, If its not redistributable, It doesn't belong in non-free or any
other place we distribute software. This is why we d
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:12:14AM +, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> Sure, but to a certain extent that depends on the number of
> candidates. If you look back a few more years, you'll see much more.
Oh, absolutely, it was not meant to be a blame on last year candidates
(also because I was one of the
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> The following question is optional, as it discloses private information,
> so feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
> appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
>
>
Le Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 08:30:03AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs a écrit :
> Hi!
>
> I have a question to the candidates: History has shown that DPLs more
> or less disappear not too long after their period or at least reduce
> their visible efforts immensly. I wonder where you see the reasons for
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:46:22AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl a écrit :
>
> That opens up for an interesting question: What ways to settle a
> conflict with fellow Debian Developers seem proper to you? Do we have
> to expect further unspecified ignores from your side should you be
> el
Hi!
On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 3:44 PM, Clint Adams wrote:
> 5) Is there any part of Debian that should be restricted
> to a small subset of developers, and if so why?
So, I've taken quite a while to ponder about these questions,
particularly this last one. Several people have already replied wit
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> In my rebuttal, I mention that I lack a sense of vision in your
> platform. In case that wasn't clear, this is because the ideas you
> mention, while they might work to some extent, seem to be a bit
> superficial; I'm afraid they will not s
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 5:09 AM, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
wrote:
> The following question is optional, as it discloses private information, so
> feel free not to answer it. But non the less, I'm curious and would
> appreciate, if you would be willing to answer. So here it goes:
I was actually
Hi.
Margarita Manterola (24/03/2010):
> > Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and
> > why?
>
> I would, and will, vote for all of them. I won't disclose the
> particular order, but they'll all be above NOTA.
That's a very interesting detail, thanks.
Mraw,
KiBi.
signat
Hi,
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> with <20100124144741.gd13...@kunpuu.plessy.org> Charles Plessy came up with a
> draft GR "Simplification of license and copyright requirements for the Debian
> packages.".
>
> I'd like to know from Charles Plessy if the draft from Janua
Hi Marga,
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:45:11PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
>
> > with <20100124144741.gd13...@kunpuu.plessy.org> Charles Plessy came up with
> > a
> > draft GR "Simplification of license and copyright requirements for t
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 4:19 AM, Anthony Towns wrote:
> What's your estimate of the current number of Debian users?
Do "Debian" users include "Debian derivatives" users? :)
I think this question is indeed very tricky, and I don't see the point
of it being posted as a question during the "campai
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:14 PM, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
> If I understand you correctly, you dissociate yourself from Charles's
> POV about what's part of Debian and thus what needs to be free according
> to DFSG. In another thread you said all other candidates are above NOTA
> for you.
Yes, that
Stefano Zacchiroli writes:
> So, I apologize, but I'm not going to disclose my leader vote in public.
I think the better phrasing for the original question would be:
List reasons why the other candidates would make a good DPL.
This question does not ask you to divulge your potential vote - unle
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:49 AM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made
> Debian a great operating system?
This is a very difficult question, because answering it implies that I
accept that I do embody such spirit and culture, and I find thi
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 7:25 PM, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
> to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
> they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
> the numbers up, burning the other team mem
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:24 PM, Charles Plessy wrote:
> After the very painful GR about “Lenny and resolving DFSG violations”,
> discussions started about our voting system, and the fact that it does not
> accomodate well with mixture of supermajority and regular options. Also,
> disagreements wh
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 06:49:51PM +0100, I wrote:
> > So, since part of the reason that I joined the race was to make sure it
> > wouldn't get too boring, I was hoping there'd be a bit more life on this
> > list. Since there isn't, allow me to ask a few questions myself.
[Stefano]
> FWIW, I disagr
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:25:39PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> I think that one of issues we have is that there is alot of work
> to be done by some teams, some of them even regularaly mail that
> they need more members, but they seem to have a hard time keeping
> the numbers up, burning the other
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:24:45AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 12:03:32PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> >
> > For whatever it's worth, I believe the second option changes the
> > foundation documents and would require a 3:1 majority. The person who's
> > canonical on
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:49:53PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> As a developer, how do you embody the spirit and culture that has made
> Debian a great operating system?
I think I'm a person who's not afraid to try something if I think it
will improve the project in some way. I'm also not afraid
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:09:43AM +0100, Alexander Reichle-Schmehl wrote:
> Suppose that you would not run for DPL: Who would you vote and why?
I have a habit of publically (on my blog) disclosing my DPL vote, with
explanation, and will probably do so again this year (though that is not
by any me
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:36:05AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Lastly, for the meaning of ‘accusatory’, perhaps I could have found a
> better word? But I am not a native speaker. What I mean is that if in
> one message, somebody writes ‘you want this [bad thing]’ or ‘you did
> not do that [good
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 02:10:23PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> At the risk of repeating myself (I already said it in an answer to
> Charles' GR proposal), these core values are also what all DDs agreed to
> abide by. If Charles doesn't like Debian's core values, maybe he should
> resign.
The last
Dear candidates,
With respect to attracting new contributors, please ponder the idea of a
formal one-on-one mentoring scheme (as opposed to one-off interactions via
d-mentors).
I do realise that personal mentorship takes time; that's a reason to set
criteria [1] and thresholds on who gets to have
Le Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 08:12:17PM +, Neil McGovern a écrit :
>
> The position of DPL attracts rather a lot of press attention. This at
> times will be accusatory, inflamatory and downright rude. Welcome to the
> world of journalism.
>
> Do you intend to ignore these, or just ones from develo
Hi!
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Serafeim Zanikolas wrote:
> With respect to attracting new contributors, please ponder the idea of a
> formal one-on-one mentoring scheme (as opposed to one-off interactions via
> d-mentors).
There's been a mentoring program inside the Debian Women project s
Dear all,
Following the ‘Membership procedures’ GR, discussion on membership were started
after the Lenny release, but eventually stopped. In this thread it was proposed
to trust DDs to nominate other members and I found the idea very interesting.
In order to make it more consensual, there is prob
Le Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 12:15:45AM +0100, Serafeim Zanikolas a écrit :
> Dear candidates,
>
> I do realise that personal mentorship takes time; that's a reason to set
> criteria [1] and thresholds on who gets to have a mentor [2], instead of not
> considering the idea all together.
>
> I'd think
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