This one time, at band camp, Frans Pop said:
> On Tuesday 23 December 2008, Bdale Garbee wrote:
> > But note that even if the super-majority issue causes some choices to
> > have a low priority of winning, we the project at large can still learn
> > very interesting things by studying the Condorcet
* Debian Project Secretary [081222 23:39]:
> However, after thinking long and hard about this, I can find no real
> constitutional basis for terminating the current vote. Therefore, attached
> you will find the second call for votes. The only substantive change is that
> I corrected the date and
Hi,
I've been thinking about this proposal for some time, and I probably
should have send this some time ago. At least some people seem to
have had simular ideas, so I wonder why nobody propsed anything like
this.
The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
firmware images and F
Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> The files in this area should not comply with the DFSG #2, #3 and
> #4, but should comply with the rest of the the DFSG.
So anything that complies with 1 or 2 of these points, but not
all of them, may not be included in the firmware section?
s/should not/must not necessarily/
Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 13:07 +0100, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
> firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
> to make it fully functional. It is not meant for drivers that run
> on the host CPU.
There is no reason
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:24:25PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 13:07 +0100, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
> > The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
> > firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
> > to make it fully functional. I
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
> firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
> to make it fully functional. It is not meant for drivers that run
> on the host CPU.
Do you propose to include data for whic
Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 15:27 +0100, Michael Banck a écrit :
> > How about ???Software that is not executed on the host CPU??? ? That can
> > include e.g. non-free documentation, which clearly doesn???t belong in the
> > same place than nVidia binary drivers.
>
> While I think that non-dfsg-fr
Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 13:07 +0100, Kurt Roeckx a écrit :
>> The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
>> firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
>> to make it fully functional. It is not meant for drivers that run
>> on th
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Loïc Minier wrote:
> If the intent is to include it in our CD-ROMs, I think some people will
> want a "really really free" CD-ROM which doesn't have this section.
Or maybe an explicit debconf question about the non-free nature? This
could make sure
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Didier Raboud wrote:
> And if this section is not considered "part of the Debian system", why
> including software from it on the Debian CD's ? (The inverse question is to
> be answered too…)
Because it might be required in order to install all that f
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:34:29PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> > The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
> > firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
> > to make it fully functional. It is not meant for drivers
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Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> The idea is to create a new section that contains files like
> firmware images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware
> to make it fully functional. It is not meant for drivers that run
> on the host CPU.
[FWIW, I've bee
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
> Didier Raboud wrote:
>> And if this section is not considered "part of the Debian system", why
>> including software from it on the Debian CD's ? (The inverse question is
>> to be answered too...)
>
> Because it might be required in order to install all that free soft
* Frans Pop (elen...@planet.nl) [081223 01:44]:
> Given that the current status of the current "lenny firmware" vote is that
> it will go forward, I would appreciate if the DPL and/or the Project
> Secretary could rule on the following issue.
On which constitutional rules?
The secretary can int
Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've been thinking about this proposal for some time, and I probably
> should have send this some time ago. At least some people seem to
> have had simular ideas, so I wonder why nobody propsed anything like
> this.
>
> The idea is to create a new section that contai
On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:44:25PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 15:27 +0100, Michael Banck a écrit :
> > > How about ???Software that is not executed on the host CPU??? ? That can
> > > include e.g. non-free documentation, which clearly doesn???t belong in the
> > >
Le mardi 23 décembre 2008 à 21:23 +0100, Michael Banck a écrit :
> > Why? In essence, it is very similar to a firmware. It can also be
> > necessary (e.g. for game data) to make free software work, in a similar
> > way to the kernel with firmware.
>
> While that might be true technically, I don't
Hello,
On Mon, 17.11.2008 at 09:38:19 -0600, Manoj Srivastava
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 17 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > Can the Secretary clarify again what will hapen if Peter's option is voted ?
>
> That GR clearly refines the DFSG statement that all programs
> need source code. This
[Kurt Roeckx]
> The idea is to create a new section that contains files like firmware
> images and FPGA data that gets written to the hardware to make it
> fully functional. It is not meant for drivers that run on the host
> CPU.
Without weighing in on whether there _is_ a class of software for
Some of the links have changed because of our change to using user
'secretary' for the vote processing. You can see the list of currently
tallied votes, for example, at:
http://master.debian.org/~secretary/gr_lenny/voters.txt
Bdale
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On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 01:07:43PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> I've been thinking about this proposal for some time, and I probably
> should have send this some time ago. At least some people seem to
> have had simular ideas, so I wonder why nobody propsed anything like
> this.
> The idea is to c
On Wed, Dec 24, 2008 at 3:15 PM, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Having two sets of images doesn't make sense to me; the CD team have already
> posted publically this cycle about the infrastructure challenges involved
> with publishing those images that they already have to accomodate, doubling
> the ima
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