Re: Call for seconds: Revised ballot

2008-10-26 Thread Holger Levsen
Moin, On Saturday 25 October 2008 20:31, Robert Millan wrote: > When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the DFSG for > 60 days or more besides that this proposal still has at least the problem of "who determines how" (that the DFSG has been violated) I have been thinking th

Re: Call for seconds: Revised ballot

2008-10-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:05:34AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Moin, > > On Saturday 25 October 2008 20:31, Robert Millan wrote: > > When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the DFSG for > > 60 days or more > > besides that this proposal still has at least the problem of "w

Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 20:26 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : > I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us > look like a bunch of clowns. > it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. > look like a bunch of clowns > a bunch of clowns > clowns > -- > Robert Mi

Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:32:52AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 20:26 +0200, Robert Millan a écrit : > > I'd appreciate if you don't use a GR procedure for that, though, it makes us > > look like a bunch of clowns. > > > it makes us look like a bunch of clowns. > >

Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:17:46PM +, Robert Millan wrote: > 21:22 < vorlon> oh yes, that's right, *sending chocolate* makes us look > like a bunch of clowns > 21:34 < nyu> vorlon: don't put words in my mouth, thanks > 21:35 < vorlon> nyu: what should I put in your mouth? > > Let this s

Re: Call for seconds: Revised ballot

2008-10-26 Thread Debian Project Secretary
On Sat, Oct 25 2008, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 08:31:29PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: >> On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 10:37:52PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> > > Nevertheless I would merge it in my proposal if you still want me to. > >> > If we must have a GR, I would

Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > > I propose to amend the Robert's resolution by adding the following choice > --- > The Debian project, recognizing that bugs do not fix themselves, > applauds Ben Hutchings's efforts to remove non-DFSG-conformant bits from > the linux-2.

Re: Proposed amendment: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 26 octobre 2008 à 15:17 +0100, Robert Millan a écrit : > For those who didn't get Josselin's witty remark, this happens because I dared > to complain that my words were being missrepresented by Steve Langasek on IRC, > pretending that I said something I never did. No, this happens beca

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Robert Millan] > + > + When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the > + Debian Free Software Guidelines for 60 days or more, and > + none of the solutions that have been implemented (if any) is > considered > + suitable by the maintainers, the pa

Re: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-26 Thread Frans Pop
> - Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the > debian-devel-announce >mailing list (Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) about "Developer >Status"; > > - Given the importance of defining how the Project accepts new members; > > - Because of the strong opposition to the m

Re: Call for seconds: Resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Robert Millan
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 02:00:27PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Robert Millan] > > + > > + When ever a package in Debian is found to have been violating the > > + Debian Free Software Guidelines for 60 days or more, and > > + none of the solutions that have been implemented (i

Re: Call for seconds: Suspension of the changes of the Project's membership procedures.

2008-10-26 Thread Amaya
Sorry, I can't reply to the original mail itself, I hope this suffices. Frans Pop wrote: > > > - Following the announcement of the 22nd of October on the > > debian-devel-announce > >mailing list (Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) about "Developer > >Status"; > > > > - Given the impo

Re: [DRAFT] resolving DFSG violations

2008-10-26 Thread Jeff Carr
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 11:19, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is there a reason why those interested in supporting blob-dependant hardware > can't make a release that includes those blobs? As per SC #1 they can't refer > to it as "Debian", but they can use the project's resources to b