Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 01:57:53AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> Hm. I have to admit I'd be much more inclined to vote for things like
>> this that I don't really like but that may work out if they
>> self-destructed in a year unless confirmed by a seco
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 08:12:09AM +0200, Bart Martens wrote:
> On Thu, 2007-08-02 at 14:38 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > At present, how do you find packages that have been packaged by non-DDs
> > and uploaded with the minimal checks by a DD in order to review them,
> > or just get a sense of h
Hi,
On Thursday 02 August 2007 08:12, Bart Martens wrote:
> Also, I think that a quick win could be to stop using the term "non-DD",
> and instead calling all contributors "Debian Contributor" (DC).
> [...]
> The term "Debian Contributor" is at
> least honorable, and something to brag about. :
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:48:06PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Oh, that reminds me.
>
> I propose we change section 5.2 of the constitution concerning appointment
> of the Project Leader to reduce the nomination period to a week, and the
> voting period to two weeks. In wdiff format:
>
> =
On Tuesday 31 July 2007 10:48, Anthony Towns wrote:
> Oh, that reminds me.
>
> I propose we change section 5.2 of the constitution concerning
> appointment of the Project Leader to reduce the nomination period
> to a week, and the voting period to two weeks. In wdiff format:
>
> =
> 5.2. Appo
On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:48:06PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> =
> 5.2. Appointment
>
> 1. The Project Leader is elected by the Developers.
> 2. The election begins [-nine-] {+six+} weeks before the leadership
>post becomes vacant, or (if it is too late already) immediately
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
> Seconded.
Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
vote any more :-)
That said, once we reached the 5 DD who seconded (+2/3 more just to be
sure in case of bad signatures), it doesn't bring much to send furth
At 1186057612 time_t, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> That said, once we reached the 5 DD who seconded (+2/3 more just to be
> sure in case of bad signatures), it doesn't bring much to send further
> seconds IMO.
Seconded.
Cheers,
--
Julien Danjou
.''`. Debian Developer
: :' : http://julien.danjou.inf
Hi,
On Thursday 02 August 2007 14:26, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
> vote any more :-)
Seriously, could we have this change without voting?
regards,
Holger (to lazy to read up in the constitution...)
pgpUcJln24qb
* Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-31 09:49]:
> I will definitely second such a proposal, unless former DPLs come
> forward to say that this just wouldn't work for some reason. I've
> felt the same thing for a while as well.
I don't think it's a good idea to increase the time of a DPL te
* Julien BLACHE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-31 23:04]:
> Note that you're still free to step down after one year, so that's
> hardly a problem
I don't think anyone would do that. It takes quite a bit to convince
yourself to step down and then actually go through with it.
--
Martin Michlmayr
htt
On Thursday 02 August 2007, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Thu, 02 Aug 2007, Konstantinos Margaritis wrote:
> > Seconded.
>
> Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need
> to vote any more :-)
>
> That said, once we reached the 5 DD who seconded (+2/3 more just to be
> sur
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 02 August 2007 14:26, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
> > vote any more :-)
>
>Seriously, could we have this change without voting?
>
I was
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thursday 02 August 2007 14:26, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
> > vote any more :-)
>
> Seriously, could we have this change without voting?
No. An
Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> No. And that's a good thing.
Actually, *if* each and every developer formally seconds the
resolution, I think the secretary could forego the actual voting
procedure as blatantly obvious.
--
* Sufficiently advanced magic is indistinguishable from tech
On 02.08.2007 17:12 schrieb Kalle Kivimaa:
> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> No. And that's a good thing.
>
> Actually, *if* each and every developer formally seconds the
> resolution, I think the secretary could forego the actual voting
> procedure as blatantly obvious.
I think ev
On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 05:25:33PM +0200, Bastian Venthur wrote:
> On 02.08.2007 17:12 schrieb Kalle Kivimaa:
> > Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> >> No. And that's a good thing.
> >
> > Actually, *if* each and every developer formally seconds the
> > resolution, I think the secretary
Kalle Kivimaa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (02/08/2007):
> Actually, *if* each and every developer formally seconds the
> resolution, I think the secretary could forego the actual voting
> procedure as blatantly obvious.
``Seconding a GR'' = ``Voting in favour of a GR''? I don't think so.
Cheers,
--
Cyr
* Joerg Jaspert [Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:41:44 +0200]:
> Ok, they may hurt the secretary, Manoj will have a fun time listing all
> of us seconders. :)
Nothing prevents him from just choosing the first 5 seconds, or 5 at
random, TTBOMK.
--
Adeodato Simó dato at ne
On 11099 March 1977, Holger Levsen wrote:
>> Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
>> vote any more :-)
> Seriously, could we have this change without voting?
Sure, if everyone with a key in the current keyring, ie. including those
MIA, sends a "seconded" (a
On 11099 March 1977, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
>> Seconded.
> Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need to
> vote any more :-)
> That said, once we reached the 5 DD who seconded (+2/3 more just to be
> sure in case of bad signatures), it doesn't bring much to send furth
On Thu, 02 Aug 2007 17:25:33 +0200, Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On 02.08.2007 17:12 schrieb Kalle Kivimaa:
>> Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>> No. And that's a good thing.
>>
>> Actually, *if* each and every developer formally seconds the
>> resolution, I think the
On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:44:00AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> Anyway, now Rperl-lover can upload the package on his own, but as a pure
> perl robot, he is bound to fuck up. After a year, *you* will need to
> kick him to understand how SONAMEs work :)
And yet I'm speaking in favor of th
Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Wed, Aug 01, 2007 at 10:44:00AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
>> Anyway, now Rperl-lover can upload the package on his own, but as a pure
>> perl robot, he is bound to fuck up. After a year, *you* will need to
>> kick him to understand how SONA
On Fri, Aug 03, 2007 at 01:36:06AM +0200, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote:
> The problems I fear stem from the fact that the DM proposal *changes*
> the system we are used to. The advantage of having Debian Maintainers is
> that they don't need to go through a sponsor every time, in other words
> redu
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> So far, the only arguments I've seen of that type are "I don't want to
> be associated with the project but I still want to maintain Debian
> packages" and "I don't want to go through the NM process just to
> maintain a single package." I'm sympathetic s
Hi,
A couple of days before the end of the vote, we have 305 valid
votes from 288 unique voters (out of a total of 1035).
manoj
Voting period starts 00:00:01 UTC on Sunday,22nd Jul 2007
Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC on Saturday, 04th Aug 2007
The fo
* Wouter Verhelst ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [070802 16:52]:
> On Thu, Aug 02, 2007 at 03:37:15PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thursday 02 August 2007 14:26, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> > > Thank you for the 542th "Seconded." on this proposal. We don't even need
> > > to
> > > vote any mo
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