Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Sat, 23 Jun 2007, Joey Schulze wrote:
> > > 15 months, while with DM, it would have been only few days...
> >
> > No. You won't be able to fix it unless you have become a DM with
> > exactly the dvidvi package and thus are allowed to upload a fixed
> > version. Otherw
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 08:58:53PM +0200, Joey Schulze:
> > for me. There are two ways to do that:
> > - I make my own custom package that fix the bug (or add required
> > software), I use it, I make it available to my friends on my web
> > site, and that's all;
> > - I try to make it available
Benjamin BAYART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Le Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 09:01:51PM +0200, Sven Luther:
>> First, my mail won't reach the list, since i am currently being unfairly
>> censored and banned from posting on debian lists, so if you judge this
>> mail worthwhile, you can forward it.
>
> Uh?
Le Sat, Jun 23, 2007 at 09:01:51PM +0200, Sven Luther:
>
> First, my mail won't reach the list, since i am currently being unfairly
> censored and banned from posting on debian lists, so if you judge this
> mail worthwhile, you can forward it.
Uh?
> > During my discussions with DDs, I found ther
On Sunday 24 June 2007 15:10, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
> My point is that, when I find a software that is broken, what should I
> do with it if there is no DD to maintain it? Your point leads to
> answering "let it be broken, since you do not want to spend hours every
> week reading mailing lists".
>
Benjamin BAYART wrote:
> > > During my discussions with DDs, I found there is currently no solution
> >
> > This is where you are wrong. The correct way to handle this, is to be
> > part of a team, working on the tex packages and providing fixes, and if
> > there is an upload needed, a DD member o
> For me, "I do want to be part of Debian anymore" does not coincide with
> "I
> want to upload to Debian". Someone who uploads to Debian *is* part of
> the
> community.
>
> I see no reason to vote for a proposal that facilitates people who
> explicitly
> denounce Debian to be granted rights to
On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:07, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
> One should be entirely devoted
> to the sect, and thus become a DD, or entirely out of the thing, and
> thus contribute nothing.
> I use Debian for only technical reasons, basically because dpkg works
> better than rpm, and because files tend
On Saturday 23 June 2007 05:40, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Then the question is why not concentrating on the NM questions and
> trying to exit the queue faster ? The answer is in a critisism written
> earlier in this thread: paraphrasing. If the NM queue is to increase the
> skills of the applicants,
On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:48, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
> not to go through NM just to upload a fix or two every year.
I find it hard to believe that you cannot find a sponsor to upload a fix
around twice a year. Have you tried to ask the Debian TeX maintainers for
this? Or the debian-mentors maili
> I do not think that this is a fair characterisation of what is required
> of
> being a DD. There's no requirement to read any list except
> debian-devel-announce, which has less than one post per day on average.
> There's no need to get involved in licensing discussions, except of
> course
> w
Benjamin,
it seems to me that neither NM nor DM is suited for you. Reporting broken
stuff and optionally attaching a patch later or at the same time is the
way to go. In case of TeX packages, there's the TeX maintainer team that
will probably take care of your fix. In case of other packages, wh
Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debian Maintainers Proposal
>
> The Debian Project endorses the concept of "Debian Maintainers" with
> limited access, and resolves to
As by now only few people have participated in this thread that are
"candidates" for DM, I want to give you
Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> If you are _that_ interested in helping the TeX packaging team, join
> it, I think it's co-maintained on alioth, you just need an alioth
> account, it takes a few minutes to have one, and you'll have to ask the
> pkg-tex people to give you commits rights, which should do
On Sun, Jun 24, 2007 at 04:48:22PM +0200, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
> That is probably a good way to shape a young contributor begginning in
> free software contributions. I would probably have done that, 15 years
> ago. But nowadays, I'm involved in a lot of projects, some are of
> importance, at lea
* Benjamin BAYART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070624 17:11]:
> Yes. So, the right solution if I want to help is:
> - first I spend a lot of time proving that I'm skilled enough to read
> crazy licenses in a language that is not mine
There is hardly any package thinkable, where one can be sure the maint
Benjamin BAYART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > So, right now, when I have troubles with Debian/TeX stuff, I tend to
>> > solve it on my computer, and just report nothing, since reporting is
>> > useless.
>>
>> I disagree since when you report a bug and even contribute a patch
>> and add links to
Raphael Hertzog <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 22 Jun 2007, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>> You say you knew several, so maybe you can give some details as to their
>> reasons for this.
>
> Yes, I already explained this I guess in some former thread.
>
> I know Benjamin Bayart, who's a TeX expert
Thijs Kinkhorst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 24 June 2007 16:48, Benjamin BAYART wrote:
>> not to go through NM just to upload a fix or two every year.
>
> I find it hard to believe that you cannot find a sponsor to upload a fix
> around twice a year. Have you tried to ask the Debian Te
Benjamin BAYART <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In the TeX team, or in relation with TeX team, are some great experts,
> and I do interract well with them when there is an opportunity. By the
> way, what is done now in the combination of TeXlive and Debian is very
> close to (and seem to take some id
> Yes. So, the right solution if I want to help is:
> - first I spend a lot of time proving that I'm skilled enough to read
> crazy licenses in a language that is not mine
No, you only have to do this if you want to package software and upload
it into the archive without review.
> - then I spe
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> - then I am granted the right to help fixing the bug I found a few
>> months ago
>
> No, you don't have to do that to help fix the bug. To help fix the bug,
> all you have to do is post a patch on the bug log.
Which is what he did.
> If you t
On Thu, 21 Jun 2007 Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So here's a proposal for the Debian Maintainers idea that's been floating
> around for some time now [0].
One reason[*] in favour of having such a DM category is that there
may be software developers who would be willing to package th
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