Re: Constitutional Amendment GR: Handling assets for the project

2006-09-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Tue, Aug 22, 2006 at 11:46:54AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Yet another draft. There are major changes in this version, so > I think we'll need to have people who seconded re-second the version > that comes out of this discussion. This has gone for about a week and a half witho

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-09-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 03:07:11PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 11:00:44PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > To those who consider ROM-less hardware cheap and nasty I suggest the > > opposite is true. I design hardware (FPGAs) professionally for expensive > > communications e

Re: Proposal: The DFSG do not require source code for data, including firmware

2006-09-01 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, Aug 30, 2006 at 12:13:32AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Tue, Aug 29, 2006 at 10:07:55PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > Speaking as someone with experience of the software rather than hardware > > side of this I'd call FPGA images hardware. From the point of view of > > working with it it l

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-09-01 Thread Raul Miller
What strikes me as ironic, with these proposals, is that we ran into something like this problem back in the 90s, back during the initial adoption of the DFSG, and we had to solve that problem then: we created the non-free and contrib sections. For some reason, these sections are no longer seen a

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-09-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 02:42:26PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote: > What strikes me as ironic, with these proposals, is that we ran into > something like this problem back in the 90s, back during the initial > adoption of the DFSG, and we had to solve that problem then: > we created the non-free and con

Re: kernel firmwares: GR proposal

2006-09-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > What strikes me as ironic, with these proposals, is that we ran into > something like this problem back in the 90s, back during the initial > adoption of the DFSG, and we had to solve that problem then: we created > the non-free and contrib sections. > Fo