The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Heath
I have not voted in this DPL election. I didn't vote in last year's. I think I only voted in the first one, but even then, I'm not sure. So, why have I not voted? 1) Lack of time? The actual act of voting takes no time. 2) Lack of knowing the candidates? Possible. See below. 3)

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > In effect, the DPL is nothing more than a figurehead, that can change from > year to year. In real life, figureheads are either: [a] inanimate objects, or [b] politicians who are put in place to conceal the real leaders. I don't think

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Frost
* Adam Heath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, in summary(I'm rambled on long enough), I see no point in having a DPL. Yeah, so, I disagree, yadda yadda. Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > If you agree with this as I do, then a simple "I agree" will > suffice, sent in public reply. Then, start doing real work. The only thing I agree with you about is that actions speak louder than words. Do real work and be happ

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-04-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:38:15PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> This would clarify the main point that has been spawning endless attempts > >> by occasional maintainers to sneak non-free stuff int

The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Adam Heath
I have not voted in this DPL election. I didn't vote in last year's. I think I only voted in the first one, but even then, I'm not sure. So, why have I not voted? 1) Lack of time? The actual act of voting takes no time. 2) Lack of knowing the candidates? Possible. See below. 3)

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > In effect, the DPL is nothing more than a figurehead, that can change from > year to year. In real life, figureheads are either: [a] inanimate objects, or [b] politicians who are put in place to conceal the real leaders. I don't think

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Stephen Frost
* Adam Heath ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > So, in summary(I'm rambled on long enough), I see no point in having a DPL. Yeah, so, I disagree, yadda yadda. Stephen signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > If you agree with this as I do, then a simple "I agree" will > suffice, sent in public reply. Then, start doing real work. The only thing I agree with you about is that actions speak louder than words. Do real work and be happ

Re: GR: Alternative editorial changes to the SC

2004-04-07 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 01:38:15PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > Craig Sanders wrote: > > > On Sat, Mar 27, 2004 at 05:05:57PM -0500, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >> This would clarify the main point that has been spawning endless attempts > >> by occasional maintainers to sneak non-free stuff int

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Apr 07, 2004 at 03:12:48PM -0500, Adam Heath wrote: > Which brings me to the DPL's involvment in this particular train of thought. > If the developer that is being asked to do something, or asked to discuss > something, is themself not motivated to do(discuss), then there is nothing > that

Re: The Ineffectual DPL?

2004-04-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Adam Heath wrote: > In the past several years, I have seen a few different DPLs in (in)action. I > have not seen the betterment of the Debian Project as a whole(as a result of > actions the DPLs have done), yet each DPL has said how well they have improved > the situation. Additionally, each cand