Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > > and others', proposals? > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:52:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to

which proposals are current?

2004-02-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, I did not follow the discussion closely, so I completely lost track. What is the current state of the non-free GR? Which proposals are still being considered? Which proposals still do need seconds? Especially: On Oct. 30 2003 I seconded a proposal of Brandon Robinson. Is this one still ac

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > every now and then. I agree. > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. I'm a little uncle

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > > every now and then. > > I agree. > > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. > > I'm a little unclear on what kind of clarification is needed. See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. Right n

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:00:59AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. > > Right now, I am *completely* confused. I don't remember what issues are > out there, who proposed them, what the current versions are, what their > status is, etc. There were several

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:30:58PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Hi, > > As I understand it, Branden's proposal was resubmitted by Andrew Suffield > in December, in this form: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200312/msg00044.html > > Andrew's December "drop non-free" propo

The secretay's DPL Election announce

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
Hi, I was wondering why neither of the two announce the project secretary has written about the DPL election[1][2] has found their way to the debian-devel-announce mailing list, as both the list archives[3] and my mailbox[4] shows... Also are we sure that anyone who may be interested is aware of

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 04:05:11AM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > On Tue, 2004-02-17 at 03:52, Raul Miller wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > > and others', proposals? > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 10:52:14PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Mon, Feb 16, 2004 at 09:31:36PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > > I am confused. Did not several people second earlier versions of your, > > and others', proposals? > > The most any proposal got was 4 seconds. Five would be needed to

which proposals are current?

2004-02-17 Thread Jochen Voss
Hello, I did not follow the discussion closely, so I completely lost track. What is the current state of the non-free GR? Which proposals are still being considered? Which proposals still do need seconds? Especially: On Oct. 30 2003 I seconded a proposal of Brandon Robinson. Is this one still ac

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > every now and then. I agree. > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. I'm a little uncle

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Sven Luther
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:05:51PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > I think the problem is that you got really confusing people by changing > > every now and then. > > I agree. > > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > >

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread John Goerzen
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:14:23AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > Maybe some clarification would be good, and once a > > final version is there, then make a call for a proposal. > > I'm a little unclear on what kind of clarification is needed. See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. Right n

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:00:59AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: > See Jochen's message. I echo his sentiments. > > Right now, I am *completely* confused. I don't remember what issues are > out there, who proposed them, what the current versions are, what their > status is, etc. There were several

Re: resounding nothingness

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 12:30:58PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: Hi, > > As I understand it, Branden's proposal was resubmitted by Andrew Suffield > in December, in this form: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2003/debian-vote-200312/msg00044.html > > Andrew's December "drop non-free" propo

The secretay's DPL Election announce

2004-02-17 Thread Guido Trotter
Hi, I was wondering why neither of the two announce the project secretary has written about the DPL election[1][2] has found their way to the debian-devel-announce mailing list, as both the list archives[3] and my mailbox[4] shows... Also are we sure that anyone who may be interested is aware of