Re: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot

2004-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
> > > Because the requirement for main is that it satisfy all of our free > > > software guidelines. As I understand it, GFDL does not properly satisfy > > > guideline #3. > > It's a requirement that all the programs in main satisfy the requirements > > of the DFSG. At present it's not a requirem

Re: Ad Hominem (was Re: Raul Miller is lying scum [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot])

2004-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:32:03AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > Subject: Ad Hominem (was ...) > > No it wasn't. It was a well-formed argument with a conclusion in the > subject line. > > Argumentum ad hominem would be "You're lying, therefore you're > wrong". This was "Here is documented evide

Voting system stuff, again [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot]

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 03:27:55PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 04:42:05AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 12:38:01PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > At the moment the substantive options that have been discussed are: > > > [ ] Drop non-free

Re: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:40:18AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > I can only presume that Raul is trying to appeal to people who want to > > drop non-free, who want to get GFDL-licensed stuff out of main, and > > who want to keep GFDL-licensed stuff. That's nuts. > > It's my observation that a numb

Re: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot

2004-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 03:09:55PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > On top of that, we used to distribute shareware. We stopped -- that's > > not useless to our users, but indicates something about our existing > > practices. On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 02:24:58PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > Huh? We d

Re: Ad Hominem (was Re: Raul Miller is lying scum [Was: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot])

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 12:50:25AM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 05:32:03AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > Subject: Ad Hominem (was ...) > > > > No it wasn't. It was a well-formed argument with a conclusion in the > > subject line. > > > > Argumentum ad hominem would be "

Re: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot

2004-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004, Anthony Towns wrote: > > > It's a requirement that all the programs in main satisfy the > > > requirements of the DFSG. On Fri, Jan 23, 2004 at 11:55:03AM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > > All the software in main. On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 02:37:35PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:

Re: thoughts on potential outcomes for non-free ballot

2004-01-23 Thread Raul Miller
> > The only way I know of to address these sorts of inconsistencies involves > > examples. On Sat, Jan 24, 2004 at 06:06:00AM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > If your point is that a significant portion of the enfranchised > developers are nuts, then I have to point out the futility of trying > to

Comparison and rebuttal of Raul Miller/20040119-13 against Andrew Suffield/GR Editorial

2004-01-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
I concur with the analysis of the components I have skipped. In all the cases where Raul has included changes that I have not, I think that they are either wrong or pointless. All the ones that I have not covered in this mail fall into the "pointless" category, and are mostly typographical changes

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