Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-15 Thread Craig Sanders
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:36:00AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 10-Jun-99, 00:25 (CDT), Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey, you now they are some countries where you are fined if > > you don't show to vote, i think they believe that voting is an > > obligation not a right. it

Re: complaints about vote announcements (was: Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences)

1999-06-13 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 11:40:44AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote: > [sorry for this off-topic post, I will attempt to restrain myself from > commenting on this thread further] > > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 05:47:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > What i disagree with, is that i didn't know that i wa

Re: complaints about vote announcements (was: Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences)

1999-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
[sorry for this off-topic post, I will attempt to restrain myself from commenting on this thread further] On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 05:47:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > What i disagree with, is that i didn't know that i was highly recommended to > read > devel-announce, didn't even know about the

Re: complaints about vote announcements (was: Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences)

1999-06-11 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 03:13:01AM +0200, Wichert Akkerman wrote: > > Why is this discussion a) being held here, and b) using a subject > that doesn't even come close the what is being discussed? > > While I have your attention, let me say that I think the CFVs are > currently being send to the r

complaints about vote announcements (was: Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences)

1999-06-11 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Why is this discussion a) being held here, and b) using a subject that doesn't even come close the what is being discussed? While I have your attention, let me say that I think the CFVs are currently being send to the right lists (-devel-announce and -vote). Sending them to more mailinglist does

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 03:47:58PM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 08:29:03AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > For other ballots, I would be; for this one, I didn't find any discussion > > necessary. I can't see why all discussion of a ballot must occur on the > > debian-v

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 08:29:03AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 12:17:16PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > I am not interested in the other discussion on this list. > > > > Then how can you possibly make an informed decision? Ok, the logo was > > pretty simple (althou

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, Jun 11, 1999 at 08:29:03AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 12:17:16PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > I am not interested in the other discussion on this list. > > > > Then how can you possibly make an informed decision? Ok, the logo was > > pretty simple (althou

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 11:47:42AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Informed voting is a good thing. Votes based on random choice > or without knowledge of the subject at hand may not be. Of course. In general, discussion on ballots has occurred on debian-devel in the past. Why the change

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 12:17:16PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I am not interested in the other discussion on this list. > > Then how can you possibly make an informed decision? Ok, the logo was > pretty simple (although discussion about why certain candidates would > not make good logos was

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Darren O. Benham
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 05:58:21PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:36:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I think it takes < 1 minute about once a week to click on a bookmark > > to bring up a relatively simple page to check if there is an active > > proposal. If you'd

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Jun-99, 02:58 (CDT), Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unfortunately it is all too easy for CFVs to get lost on this mailing list. :0: * Subject:.*CFV Mail/voteannounce > I would prefer it remained an announce list, or that CFVs were also sent > to debian-devel-announce. I too

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Distressingly, I find that people in this discussion seem to have the attitude that in some way people are obligated to feed them information about votes, policy changes, etc, and that they have a right to be involved in everything Debian does. This is a voluneteer organiz

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, >>"Hamish" == Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Hamish> Unfortunately it is all too easy for CFVs to get lost on this Hamish> mailing list. I would prefer it remained an announce list, Hamish> or that CFVs were also sent to debian-devel-announce. I am Hamish> not interested in th

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:36:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > I think it takes < 1 minute about once a week to click on a bookmark > to bring up a relatively simple page to check if there is an active > proposal. If you'd rather get it via e-mail, subscribe to debian-vote. Unfortunately it is

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Jun 10, 1999 at 02:36:20AM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 10-Jun-99, 00:25 (CDT), Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hey, you now they are some countries where you are fined if you don't > > show to vote, i think they believe that voting is an obligation not a > > right. >

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Jun-99, 00:25 (CDT), Sven LUTHER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hey, you now they are some countries where you are fined if you don't > show to vote, i think they believe that voting is an obligation not a > right. As a totally off-topic point, I completely disagree with that concept. > Yes

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 01:05:35PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 08-Jun-99, 14:51 (CDT), Stephen Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I totally agree, I wasn't even aware there was a vote going on until I > > saw someone talking about it on IRC. I'm not not on -devel, there is > > way too m

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 08-Jun-99, 14:51 (CDT), Stephen Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I totally agree, I wasn't even aware there was a vote going on until I > saw someone talking about it on IRC. I'm not not on -devel, there is > way too much traffic there. Why cant the CFV be CC:'ed to -private or > something?

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-09 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 02:51:11PM -0500, Stephen Crowley wrote: > On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 12:25:21PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > > Evevry developper should be automatically subscribed to this list, so we > > would be > > informed when votes are being made. > > I totally agree, I wasn't even awar

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-08 Thread Stephen Crowley
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 12:25:21PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote: > Evevry developper should be automatically subscribed to this list, so we > would be > informed when votes are being made. I totally agree, I wasn't even aware there was a vote going on until I saw someone talking about it on IRC. I'm

Re: The Ugly Logo and the Consequences

1999-06-08 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 12:16:13PM +0200, Ulf Jaenicke-Roessler wrote: > Sven LUTHER wrote: > > > I was subscribed back in december, last message i received was december2 > > 1999. > > > > Should not all developpers be automatically subscribed to debian-vote ? how > > will > > you do votes if n