Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Double standards are damned fun! > > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Well that depends ... Debian doesn't officially provide non-free, no." > "Unofficially?" > "It's all there, waiting for you." > "Cool." Thats the difference between the D

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Double standards are damned fun! > > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Well that depends ... Debian doesn't officially provide non-free, no." > "Unofficially?" > "It's all there, waiting for you." > "Cool." Thats the difference between the

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-11 Thread Peter Makholm
Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Softwares which no one needs will self-demise, without intervention. > Persecution will make Martyrs, and it will make difficult to enlighten > people about the value of the Free Software. Nice said. -- Peter

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-11 Thread Peter Makholm
Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Softwares which no one needs will self-demise, without intervention. > Persecution will make Martyrs, and it will make difficult to enlighten > people about the value of the Free Software. Nice said. -- Peter -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL P

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-11 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. (I remove -devel list as well as the address of Ch.Troestler from cc of this mail. I considered to remove also the address of John, but left it since I don't know if he read -project list. I left -vote list also, since this topic is related to coming vote.) In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, a

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-11 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. (I remove -devel list as well as the address of Ch.Troestler from cc of this mail. I considered to remove also the address of John, but left it since I don't know if he read -project list. I left -vote list also, since this topic is related to coming vote.) In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread John Goerzen
Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Any of the Debian packages itself doesn't include non-free, No." > "Then users can't use the packages for non-free softwares ?" > "Some un-official packages in contrib can install non-free softwares > ve

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread John Goerzen
Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Any of the Debian packages itself doesn't include non-free, No." > "Then users can't use the packages for non-free softwares ?" > "Some un-official packages in contrib can install non-free softwares > v

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:00:56PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Well that depends ... Debian doesn't officially provide non-free, no." > "Unofficially?" > "It's all there, waiting for you." > "Cool." > > So much for "The truly free distribution". It i

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. (I don't read "Do not cc me" phrase this time, but I remove knghtbrd from Cc: field, assuming he will read this anyway.) (I add "Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]", becuase I think this thread should go there, instead of using debian-devel and debian-vote. I left these two (-devel & -vote)

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread Josip Rodin
On Fri, Jun 09, 2000 at 09:00:56PM -0700, Joseph Carter wrote: > "Does Debian include non-free software?" > "Well that depends ... Debian doesn't officially provide non-free, no." > "Unofficially?" > "It's all there, waiting for you." > "Cool." > > So much for "The truly free distribution". It

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-10 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. (I don't read "Do not cc me" phrase this time, but I remove knghtbrd from Cc: field, assuming he will read this anyway.) (I add "Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]", becuase I think this thread should go there, instead of using debian-devel and debian-vote. I left these two (-devel & -vote

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:09:30AM +0200, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > > includes t

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Joseph Carter
On Sat, Jun 10, 2000 at 03:09:30AM +0200, Christophe TROESTLER wrote: > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > > includes

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On 09 Jun 2000, Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > includes the non-

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-09 Thread Christophe TROESTLER
On 09 Jun 2000, Taketoshi Sano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [...] > > So, if the phrase "Does Debian distribute non-free software or not?" > means "The Debian Project makes accessible the non-free packages ?", > then answer is Yes. But if it means "The Official Debian System > includes the non

Re: Removing non-free - reality check.

2000-06-08 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Thanks, knghtbrd, for your summary. (I don't cc you on your request. I add cc to debian-vote where I read your mail.) In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, at Thu, 8 Jun 2000 10:41:35 -0700, Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - We're talking about doing this in woody right? Woody is g