Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be > made to understand why people might disagree with them. But I can't > imagine any even theoretically possible scenarios where this would > change their opinion

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be > made to understand why people might disagree with them. But I can't > imagine any even theoretically possible scenarios where this would > change their opinion

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I would say it as: > > "For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. > For those who do not, none is worthwhile." > > I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be > made to understand why people

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:16:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > > > want to do", then I thi

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > > want to do", then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for > > your proposal. > > The

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and > so incomprehensible to those opposing it that it is not worth the pain > to argue about it, IMHO. You're not describing a rationale, you're describing an articl

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:21:27PM +, Andrew Suffield wrote: > I would say it as: > > "For those who understand, no explanation is necessary. > For those who do not, none is worthwhile." > > I think it's not impossible that some (more) of the opponents could be > made to understand why people

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 02:16:13PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > > > want to do", then I thi

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > want to do", then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for > your proposal. The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and so incom

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > > want to do", then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for > > your proposal. > > The

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 06:18:03PM +0100, Michael Banck wrote: > The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and > so incomprehensible to those opposing it that it is not worth the pain > to argue about it, IMHO. You're not describing a rationale, you're describing an articl

Re: non-free proposal (was Re: Questions to candidates)

2004-03-03 Thread Michael Banck
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 12:09:23PM -0500, Raul Miller wrote: > However, if the point of this vote is "to decide what it is that we > want to do", then I think we'd be better served with a rationale for > your proposal. The rationale is so obvious to everybody supporting the resolution and so incom