Re: Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-08 Thread Norbert Preining
> And bingo, I now have a complete card! I should go get a celebratory > drink instead of continuing to affirm my conclusion that Debian has > become such a toxic place to be putting my energy. What an important contribution from someone who has been on the AH/CT Team, but cannot accept different

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-08 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Wed, Apr 7, 2021 at 9:33 PM Martina Ferrari wrote: > > Fuck that > you were in the first line on my bingo card. > Lol, "trot" off dude. > your amazingly stupid retort > another character that is also fanning the flames in this list > and also was on my bingo card, I am on a roll!! > all my

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-08 Thread Jonathan Carter
Hi Tina On 2021/04/08 06:15, Martina Ferrari wrote: > Ah, Adam, sending unsolicited private email? Fuck that, you were in the > first line on my bingo card. Personally, I would've ignored an unsolicited post like that and deleted it. Not that I'm telling you that's what you should've done, but yo

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-07 Thread Martina Ferrari
Ah, Adam, sending unsolicited private email? Fuck that, you were in the first line on my bingo card. On 07/04/2021 22:03, Adam Borowski wrote: On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 04:18:03PM +0100, Martina Ferrari wrote: And bingo, I now have a complete card! I should go get a celebratory drink instead of

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-07 Thread Martina Ferrari
Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the Free Software Foundation. seconded And bingo, I now have a complete card! I should go get a celebratory drink instead of continuing to affi

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Kurt Roeckx dijo [Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 08:38:24PM +0200]: > The option has been committed to the website, it should appear soon. Thanks, Kurt. The vote is now in progress, and it does include this option. I just felt needed to state that I didn't include it in my call for vote because, early yest

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Apr 04, 2021 at 09:14:31AM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 05:43:38PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > > Move choice 7 to 8 and put it seven. > > > > [ ] Choice 7: Rejecting and denouncing a witch-hunt against RMS. > > > > (maybe Craig has a better idea) > > Thank

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 05:43:38PM +0200, Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: > Move choice 7 to 8 and put it seven. > > [ ] Choice 7: Rejecting and denouncing a witch-hunt against RMS. > > (maybe Craig has a better idea) Thanks, looks goodexcept for two problems: 1. you've used the wrong article "a"

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
The option has been committed to the website, it should appear soon.

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 07:15:22PM +0200, Micha Lenk wrote: > My previous attempt yielded an invalid signature for me, so, trying again with > a different mailer... This one worked. Kurt

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 07:07:54PM +0200, Micha Lenk wrote: > Am 03.04.21 um 01:56 schrieb Craig Sanders: > > Short and simple: > > > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt > > against Richard Stallman, the Free Software

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Roger Shimizu
On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 6:15 PM Holger Levsen wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and th

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Adam Borowski (2021-04-03 18:21:54) > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the memb

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Micha Lenk
My previous attempt yielded an invalid signature for me, so, trying again with a different mailer... Am 03.04.21 um 01:56 schrieb Craig Sanders: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt > against Richard Stallman,

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Micha Lenk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Am 03.04.21 um 01:56 schrieb Craig Sanders: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt > against Richard Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the > members of

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 06:21:54PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman, the Free Software Found

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Software Foundation. > >

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le samedi 03 avril 2021 à 17:38:17+0200, Kurt Roeckx a écrit : > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Short and simple: > > > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallm

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Softwar

Re: Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Barak A. Pearlmutter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Ying-Chun Liu (PaulLiu)
Quoting Craig Sanders (2021-04-03 01:56:45) >> Short and simple: >> >> TEXT OF OPTION 5 >> >> >> Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard >> Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the >> Free Software Foundation.

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Craig Sanders (2021-04-03 01:56:45) > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Software Foundation. > >

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Norbert Preining
> TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Software Foundation. seconded Best Norbert signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, a

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 05:48:47AM -0700, Felix Lechner wrote: > Hi, > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 12:34 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > The discussion period is over, no new options will be added. > > That does not seem right. The submission arrived during the discussion > period and was only formal

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Felix Lechner
Hi, On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 12:34 AM Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > The discussion period is over, no new options will be added. That does not seem right. The submission arrived during the discussion period and was only formally deficient, yes? Since the discussion period was already shortened and we al

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:21:52PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 02:12:25PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > This has been discussed before. It did not reset the minimum discussion > > time. > > oh wow, a discussion. and a discussion has the power to change debian's > constitu

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi Adam, Am 03.04.21 um 14:31 schrieb Adam Borowski: On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 02:12:25PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:59:53PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: The last amendment (before mine) was accepted on March 30th, which means the earliest a vote can be called with a sho

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi Craig, Am 03.04.21 um 14:21 schrieb Craig Sanders: This has been discussed before. It did not reset the minimum discussion time. oh wow, a discussion. and a discussion has the power to change debian's constitution? Debian's constitution wasn't changed. Please calm down and read up in the

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 02:12:25PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:59:53PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > The last amendment (before mine) was accepted on March 30th, which means the > > earliest a vote can be called with a shortened 1 week discussion period is > > April 7th

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 02:12:25PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > This has been discussed before. It did not reset the minimum discussion > time. oh wow, a discussion. and a discussion has the power to change debian's constitution? in any case: it will be wonderful to see Debian commit Libel agains

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 01:56:32PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:38:23PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 09:33:48AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > > Short and simple: > > > > > > >

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:59:53PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 01:56:32PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > A vote has been called. > > Nope, can't have been. > > The last amendment (before mine) was accepted on March 30th, which means the > earliest a vote can be called wit

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 01:08:50PM +0200, Micha Lenk wrote: > Hi Adrian, > > Am 03.04.21 um 10:25 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > Craig, if you make this a new separate GR I will be glad to sponsor it. > > Do you (or anybody actually) have a idea how to deal best with the old RMS > GR if this one is for

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 01:56:32PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > A vote has been called. Nope, can't have been. The last amendment (before mine) was accepted on March 30th, which means the earliest a vote can be called with a shortened 1 week discussion period is April 7th. Any CFV before then is

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:38:23PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 09:33:48AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > > Short and simple: > > > > > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > > > > Debian refuses to

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 09:14:53AM +, Holger Levsen wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 11:25:13AM +0300, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Craig, if you make this a new separate GR I will be glad to sponsor it. why not do that yourself? craig

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Craig Sanders
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 09:33:48AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Short and simple: > > > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman,

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Micha Lenk (2021-04-03 13:08:50) > Am 03.04.21 um 10:25 schrieb Adrian Bunk: > > Craig, if you make this a new separate GR I will be glad to sponsor > > it. > > Do you (or anybody actually) have a idea how to deal best with the old > RMS GR if this one is formally accepted? If this one

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Micha Lenk
Hi Adrian, Am 03.04.21 um 10:25 schrieb Adrian Bunk: Craig, if you make this a new separate GR I will be glad to sponsor it. Do you (or anybody actually) have a idea how to deal best with the old RMS GR if this one is formally accepted? Regards, Micha

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Holger Levsen (2021-04-03 11:14:53) > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members o

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Holger Levsen
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Software Foundation. > --

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 09:33:48AM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > > Short and simple: > > > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against > > Richard > > Stallman

Re: REPOST, SIGNED: Re: Amendment to RMS/FSF GR: Option 5

2021-04-03 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:56:45AM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: > Short and simple: > > TEXT OF OPTION 5 > > > Debian refuses to participate in and denounces the witch-hunt against Richard > Stallman, the Free Software Foundation, and the members of the board of the > Free Softwar