Hi,
11.04.21 09:53 Kurt Roeckx:
> I think the best way to make the vote secret is that the DPL makes a
> decision. We have a process that can deal with people not agreeing
> with that decision.
Let's suppose the DPL decides the vote should be secret. Some people might
then vote based on the assu
Le dimanche, 11 avril 2021, 23.10:53 h CEST Jonathan Wiltshire a écrit :
> So I suggest the DPL directs under s5.1 something like:
>
> "The secretary shall delay publication of the the association between
> identify and ballot on the tally sheet, for a period of not more than 90
> days, unless dir
Hallo,
* Didier 'OdyX' Raboud [Sun, Apr 11 2021, 06:00:30PM]:
> For what I'm concerned, I don't "insist on making the personal views on this
> GR public", because it was always clear (to me) that all voters' personal
> views on this GR would end up being made public by the secretary on our
> websi
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> I support this approach and believe the DPL should decide under 5.1(3)
> that Debian will not publish the association between identity and ballot
> for the RMS resolution.
I too support the mechanism to achieve it but not the permanen
Le dimanche 11 avril 2021 à 18:12:56+0200, Micha Lenk a écrit :
> Hi Pierre-Elliott,
>
> Am 11.04.21 um 14:27 schrieb Pierre-Elliott Bécue:
> > > Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
> > > GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
> > >
Hi Pierre-Elliott,
Am 11.04.21 um 14:27 schrieb Pierre-Elliott Bécue:
Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
themselves for no good reason.
I am really worried that someone could say that hold
Le dimanche, 11 avril 2021, 01.02:18 h CEST Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
> GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
> themselves for no good reason.
Just clarifying one thing here, to make sure there's
Le 11 avril 2021 01:02:18 GMT+02:00, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
>Those who insist on making the personal views on this (non-technical!!!)
>GR public should be ashamed of dragging their fellows into denuding
>themselves for no good reason.
I am really worried that someone could say that holding to our
On 11/04/2021 08:53, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
> As secretary, I do not intend to make the vote secret.
Given Debian's current rules that is probably correct.
> Personally, I would like to see the vote secret.
Me too.
> I think the best way to make the vote secret is that the DPL makes a
> decision.
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 09:29:21AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> I agree for the GR vote to be secret. I understand others came to a
> different conclusion. I trust Kurt for making the right decision. I
> will not complain about it.
As secretary, I do not intend to make the vote secret.
Person
I agree for the GR vote to be secret. I understand others came to a
different conclusion. I trust Kurt for making the right decision. I
will not complain about it.
--
Charles Plessy Nagahama, Yomitan, Okinawa, Japan
Debian Med packaging team http://www.debian.or
Hallo,
* Russ Allbery [Fri, Apr 09 2021, 10:59:16AM]:
> Sam Hartman writes:
>
> > Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> > decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> > the constitution prior to the election ending. And our constitut
Martin Pitt writes:
> Hello all,
>
> Pierre-Elliott Bécue [2021-04-10 18:16 +0200]:
>> After a careful thinking, I agree with Elena's opinion and would rather
>> not make the vote private while it already has started.
>
> Ulrike Uhlig [2021-04-10 18:20 +0200]:
>> On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX'
Hello all,
Pierre-Elliott Bécue [2021-04-10 18:16 +0200]:
> After a careful thinking, I agree with Elena's opinion and would rather
> not make the vote private while it already has started.
Ulrike Uhlig [2021-04-10 18:20 +0200]:
> On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> > Le vendredi, 9
Hi!
On 10.04.21 15:33, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
Le vendredi, 9 avril 2021, 19.12:26 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit :
I don't think changing our 25+ years worth of GR practice (and GR tradition)
*right in the middle of a vote* will do any good; not internally, and not
externally.
Do I think we
Le samedi 10 avril 2021 à 09:00:51-0700, Elana Hashman a écrit :
> On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 13:12:26 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> > There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
> > expected to vote on the rms gr.
> > People on both sides have expressed increasing discomfort with
On Fri, 09 Apr 2021 13:12:26 -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> There has been increasing harassment of people based on what they are
> expected to vote on the rms gr.
> People on both sides have expressed increasing discomfort with the idea
> of voting in public with the entire world knowing how they vot
Le vendredi, 9 avril 2021, 19.12:26 h CEST Sam Hartman a écrit :
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
For what is worth; let me bring a slightly dissonant voice in that discussion.
While abundantly aware of the conce
Hi!
On 09.04.21 20:08, Kurt Roeckx wrote:
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
* A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
election and the tradeoffs are well-understoo
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 05:55:48PM +, Holger Levsen wrote:
> That said, I think it's a *very* bad idea to change the vote procedure
> during an ongoing vote. Really *bad* idea and precedence. Double more
> so on a vote with shortened discussion period.
>
> (plus secret voting is a *really real
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 10:59:16AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>
> * A secret ballot, while contrary to the constitution for GRs, is not
> wholly irregular for the project. We use one every year for the DPL
> election and the tradeoffs are well-understood. This vote poses an
> additional ch
Sam Hartman writes:
> Thanks for doing this. I'm actually very comfortable for us to make the
> decision under 5.1(3). We cleraly cannot hold a GR in time to change
> the constitution prior to the election ending. And our constitution
> already has a provision for making decisions where a time
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
I'm not sure this is not leaking.
> I argued on another list that[...]
> Several people agreed with me, ande one pers
On Fri, Apr 09, 2021 at 01:12:26PM -0400, Sam Hartman wrote:
>
> On another list, there was discussion of the DPL encouraging the
> secretary to make the vote on the rms GR secret.
If we're going to go this way, I would really like to make this
change soon. Based on the outcome of this, people mi
24 matches
Mail list logo
