Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Richard Laager
On 3/26/21 7:09 PM, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Perhaps said another way, the only valid reason for directing a bunch of attention toward the FSF is if they are worth salvaging. Plenty of comments in the last few days seem to indicate that such might not be the case. Why not form a new organizati

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sat, Mar 27, 2021 at 12:47:59AM +0100, Dominik George wrote: > Hi, > > > The problem is that for good reason, we no longer trust the FSF under > > its current governance to do that. What you are affectively asking > > people to do is to pursue justice in regard to things rms did in a forum > >

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > The problem is that for good reason, we no longer trust the FSF under > its current governance to do that. What you are affectively asking > people to do is to pursue justice in regard to things rms did in a forum > where rms has much more power than they do and where rms (and the voting >

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 11:46:10+0100, Pierre-Elliott Bécue a écrit : > Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 11:05:26+0100, Dominik George a écrit : > > Hi, > > > > > A General Resolution has been started about Richard Stallman's > > > readmission to the FSF board. > > > > > > It currently has 1 availab

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Sam Hartman
> "Dominik" == Dominik George writes: Dominik> With all due respect to everyone who has been offended by Dominik> Richard Stallman, feels oppressed by him, or is negatively Dominik> affected by his views — every single such person has to be Dominik> heard, their fears and sorr

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Benda Xu
Dominik George writes: > I explicitly do NOT support this GR. > > My opinion, as laid out at > https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-letter.github.io/issues/2285: > > 8><-- > With the FSFE freezing its collaboration with the FS

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dominik George (2021-03-26 15:07:36) > > If you want the project to issue a statement, the exact statement > > should be in the GR, so that people that vote know what they are > > voting for. > > The statement I described is one that says "we will stand behind > anyone who was harmed du

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > If you want the project to issue a statement, the exact statement should be > in the GR, so that people that vote know what they are voting for. The statement I described is one that says "we will stand behind anyone who was harmed during their contribution to the project", not a request to

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread José Vieira
Seconded. José Vieira - Mensagem de Dominik George - Data: Fri, 26 Mar 2021 11:05:26 +0100 De: Dominik George Assunto: Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board Para: debian-vote@lists.debian.org Hi, A General Resolution has

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Santiago Ruano Rincón
El 26/03/21 a las 13:26, Dominik George escribió: > Hi, > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:50:31AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > [replying only to -vote - please avoid cross-posting!] > > OK, but you actually replied only to -devel instead of -vote. > > > > > Quoting Dominik George (2021-03-26

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi, On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 1:26 PM Dominik George wrote: > > > The Debian Project make an official statement, along the lines of: > If you want the project to issue a statement, the exact statement should be in the GR, so that people that vote know what they are voting for. -- Besos, Marga

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
Quoting Dominik George (2021-03-26 13:26:09) > On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:50:31AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > > [replying only to -vote - please avoid cross-posting!] > > OK, but you actually replied only to -devel instead of -vote. Arrgh. > > Quoting Dominik George (2021-03-26 11:05:26) >

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Dominik George
Hi, On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 11:50:31AM +0100, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > [replying only to -vote - please avoid cross-posting!] OK, but you actually replied only to -devel instead of -vote. > > Quoting Dominik George (2021-03-26 11:05:26) > > Hi, > > > > > A General Resolution has been started

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Pierre-Elliott Bécue
Le vendredi 26 mars 2021 à 11:05:26+0100, Dominik George a écrit : > Hi, > > > A General Resolution has been started about Richard Stallman's > > readmission to the FSF board. > > > > It currently has 1 available options, but other proposals have been > > suggested. > > I explicitly do NOT supp

Re: General Resolution: Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board

2021-03-26 Thread Dominik George
Hi, > A General Resolution has been started about Richard Stallman's > readmission to the FSF board. > > It currently has 1 available options, but other proposals have been suggested. I explicitly do NOT support this GR. My opinion, as laid out at https://github.com/rms-open-letter/rms-open-let