Re: Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-19 Thread Micah Anderson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve McIntyre wrote: >That's an awkward question to answer, and I've been involved in >debates on it several times already over the last couple of years. We >need to work this out as a project; this may take quite some time >yet... I've seen this co

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 12:12:00AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> 2. Asks for too broad knowledge >> >> It has been suggested several times over the years that we ask too

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-09 Thread Gaudenz Steinlin
On Wed, Mar 08, 2006 at 12:12:00AM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > > 2. Asks for too broad knowledge > > > > It has been suggested several times over the years that we ask

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Wed, 08 Mar 2006, Andreas Schuldei wrote: > * Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-07 12:34:05]: > > [In short, if this is such a problem, what have you all been doing in > > your personal capacity as developers to deal with it?] [...] > Apart from that, your question implies that one ha

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-08 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-07 12:34:05]: > [In short, if this is such a problem, what have you all been doing in > your personal capacity as developers to deal with it?] I was not involved in the NM process actively, just talked to the respective people to find out what would be

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 12:34:05PM -0800, Don Armstrong wrote: > [ To Bill ] >Besides passing through NM in 2000-2001, have you participated in the >NM process as an AM? > >What has been the involvement of any of the other DPL candidates? > >[In short, if this is such a problem, what have you all b

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > 2. Asks for too broad knowledge > > It has been suggested several times over the years that we ask too > many questions of NM candidates. People want to do work for Debian, > but n

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Jeroen van Wolffelaar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Do you think that we need to change the NM checks? [...] > As an example where I think the current situation is suboptimal, the > current template's library questions are t

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing >> lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four >> years. What do you think about the m

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Andreas Schuldei <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-04 13:06:37]: >> Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing >> lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four >> years. What do you think about the mos

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-07 Thread Don Armstrong
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006, Bill Allombert wrote: > So we should try to do better, but processing more applicants mean > more work for the NM team hence we need more Debian developers > willing to be involved in the NM process. > > My own opinion is that if an applicant is doing a sizable job in > Debian

Re: NM process (was: Question to all candidates about the NM process)

2006-03-07 Thread Bill Allombert
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 12:59:10PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > Not that I couldn't have learned that also later, when I really needed > it. But the NM process was in fact a good opportunity to learn it > right, get immediate feedback on my achievements (and not via the > BTS...), and to take it s

Re: NM process (was: Question to all candidates about the NM process)

2006-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 7 Mars 2006 14:19, Martin Schulze a écrit : > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > almost 3 monthes to have an AM > > 2 days to pass T&S and P&P > > 5 days more because of a mail of mine, stuck on an SMTP > > exactly 8 monthes (WTF !?!?!) to have then my account created. > > Did you notice that things

Re: NM process (was: Question to all candidates about the NM process)

2006-03-07 Thread Martin Schulze
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > almost 3 monthes to have an AM > 2 days to pass T&S and P&P > 5 days more because of a mail of mine, stuck on an SMTP > exactly 8 monthes (WTF !?!?!) to have then my account created. Did you notice that things have changed a bit since Joerg is acting as pre-DAM? Regards,

Re: NM process (was: Question to all candidates about the NM process)

2006-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Mar 7 Mars 2006 12:59, Frank Küster a écrit : > Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My own opinion is that if an applicant is doing a sizable job in > > Debian already, they should be exempted of much of T&S. They have > > shown the skill to do the work they are more likely to do anywa

NM process (was: Question to all candidates about the NM process)

2006-03-07 Thread Frank Küster
Bill Allombert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My own opinion is that if an applicant is doing a sizable job in Debian > already, they should be exempted of much of T&S. They have shown the > skill to do the work they are more likely to do anyway, and they will > have time to learn new skills as the

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-06 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing > lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four > years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too > long, is asking

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-06 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > Heya, > > Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing > lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four > years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too > long

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-05 Thread Andreas Schuldei
* Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-04 13:06:37]: > Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing > lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four > years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too > long, is asking for

Re: Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-04 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Mar 04, 2006 at 01:06:37PM +0100, Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >Heya, Hey Marc, >Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing >lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four >years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too >

Question to all candidates about the NM process

2006-03-04 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Though there are often threads about problems with it on our mailing lists, the NM process hasn't changed much in the last three or four years. What do you think about the most common problems (takes too long, is asking for too broad knowledge)? Do you think that we need to change the NM ch