On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Agreed, but would you agree that it is a core part of the role of the
> DPL/2IC, or indeed any mediator, to provide at least basic status and
> progress info to the project as a whole?
>
> What we've been seeing with this issue is that
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> Agreed, but would you agree that it is a core part of the role of the
> DPL/2IC, or indeed any mediator, to provide at least basic status and
> progress info to the project as a whole?
Yes, absolutely. Beside this specific case---whic
Le Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 06:47:53AM +0200, Frans Pop a écrit :
> Also, it has been claimed "we cannot provide any information because
> discussions are in private" [1]. Do candidates agree to that, or do they
> think that a DPL should make clear to parties in advance that the project
> will be ke
Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> Discussing problems in public works very well if two people like
> eachother. If they don't, however, you get two people cursing at
> eachother. Now there are some people who really don't mind doing that in
> public; but when things get messy, not being messy out in the ope
Kumar Appaiah writes:
> This totally makes sense, but when it gets to the point where personal
> disagreements and their resolution seem to stifle a significant part of
> the community at large, this also results in disillusion.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. That's one of the reasons why I encouraged p
Dear Wouter,
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:28:54AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > Shouldn't it be very easy to find out what the discussions were,
> > rather than have to ask those who discussed behind closed doors as to
> > wha t the current situation is?
>
> It depends on what the problem is.
>
Dear Russ,
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 06:19:13PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> >> I don't wish to comment on the specific case of python packaging.
> >> There's been lots of things going on there, and though some of it was
> >> in public, the thread you point to clearly states that some things were
>
On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 08:05:40PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > > One of the questions which I've not yet seen exactly in the
> > > discussions is on the transparency in the maintenance of non-core but
> > > "important" packages,
Kumar Appaiah writes:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
>> I don't wish to comment on the specific case of python packaging.
>> There's been lots of things going on there, and though some of it was
>> in public, the thread you point to clearly states that some thi
Dear Charles,
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 09:23:25AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> for the moment, you have taken the way of the Technical Comitee, and this does
> not require the intervention of the DPL. Asking the TC to solve a disagreement
> between two parties should be the occasion to write down
On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 02:57:59AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > One of the questions which I've not yet seen exactly in the
> > discussions is on the transparency in the maintenance of non-core but
> > "important" packages, such as python, wherein the maintenance of the
> > package and policy
Hi Kumar,
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> Dear Candidates,
>
> First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections!
>
> At the outset, this question is not meant to be inflammatory or to
> express ire at a particular individual or set of individuals invo
Le Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah a écrit :
>
> My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing
> such inadequate maintenance of important packages.
Hello Kumar,
for the moment, you have taken the way of the Technical Comitee, and this does
not require t
Dear Margarita and Stefano,
On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 04:03:00PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote:
[snip]
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 05:30:50PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
[snip]
Thank you for your replies. I am glad that you care about this issue,
and have voiced your opinion on how to handle i
On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Kumar Appaiah
wrote:
> My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing
> such inadequate maintenance of important packages, or are you of the
> opinion that is it up to the affected Debian "community" to stop
> whining and step up with some act
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 09:59:08AM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> The method adopted for resolution of this conflict has, for better or
> for worse, happened "behind-the-scenes". Now, some in the project feel
> that this is the best way to avoid a conflagration of sorts, but
> others feel that this
Dear Zack,
Thanks for the response.
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 04:51:52PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > My question to you is, do you envision a role for the DPL in fixing
> > such inadequate maintenance of important packages, or are you of the
> > opinion that is it up to the affected Debian
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 16:51, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
...
> unfortunately some of the involved parties did not reply to the
> offer.
Not "some", just one: the Python maintainer. (as said in the bug log.)
Regards,
--
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On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 06:27:00PM -0500, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections!
Hi Kumar, thanks a lot!
> This has led some parts of the "community" (Debian Python, in this
> case) to knock the doors of the tech-ctte[1] (recommended reading,
> unless
Dear Candidates,
First of all, I wish you all the very best for the elections!
At the outset, this question is not meant to be inflammatory or to
express ire at a particular individual or set of individuals involved;
I have great respect for the contributions of all involved in the
community.
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