On 2020/03/20 02:12, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>> Non-uploading DD's existed at the time, I just had no interest in
>> becoming a non-uploading DD when it was already my intent to become an
>> uploading DD.
>
> I don't think any one membership state
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 8:12 PM Paul Wise wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
> > ...
>
> Thanks for the info, those details are interesting.
>
> > Non-uploading DD's existed at the time, I just had no interest in
> > becoming a non-uploading DD when it was already m
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 3:30 PM Jonathan Carter wrote:
> ...
Thanks for the info, those details are interesting.
> Non-uploading DD's existed at the time, I just had no interest in
> becoming a non-uploading DD when it was already my intent to become an
> uploading DD.
I don't think any one mem
Hi Paul
On 2020/03/19 15:19, Paul Wise wrote:
> I'm saying that when we think someone deserves to be a delegate (or
> join a core team), then at minimum they need to go through the
> (non-uploading) DD process before becoming a delegate. If we trust
> them to be a delegate, it would be weird to no
On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 1:09 PM Jonathan Carter wrote:
> I re-read the above, my understanding is that Paul made a statement
> about the non-dd process being sufficient for new delegates that should
> become members, and then I agreed and re-affirmed that that should be at
> least the bare minimum
On 2020/03/19 14:00, Sam Hartman wrote:
>> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes:
>
> Jonathan> On 2020/03/19 12:39, Paul Wise wrote:
> >> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
> >>
> >>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates
> >>> c
Speaking as an individual.
> "Jonathan" == Jonathan Carter writes:
Jonathan> On 2020/03/19 12:39, Paul Wise wrote:
>> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>>
>>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates
>>> could be project members
On 2020/03/19 12:39, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
>> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
>> willing to work with people who are willing to do th
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 9:54 AM Jonathan Carter wrote:
> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
> willing to work with people who are willing to do the work.
>
> I would suggest some minimal vett
Hi all,
On 18.03.20 13:36, Pranav Jain wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 5:58 PM Sruthi Chandran wrote:
>> On 18/03/20 4:06 pm, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
>>> The fact that we don't know this might hint at the need of having a
>>> feedback process for Outreach in Debian.
>>>
>>> This process could cover
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:01:28PM +0100, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> > Honestly, I don't think it's a problem we can solve right now, but at
> > the very least, we should do whatever it takes to not be part of the
> > problem, and we should take every small step we can take to be the
On 18/03/20 4:06 pm, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> Hi!
>
> @JonathanCarter: thank you very much for encouraging us to continue this
> discussion here :)
> ...
> Agreed.
>
> @Adrian: I think you should read up on the Flosspols study [1] and
> especially about the time women and men can put into free softwa
On 18/03/20 3:05 pm, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2020-03-18 10:26]:
>>> As a former Outreachy intern myself (2015) I can tell you that it the
>>> stipend has helped me to invest time to find my way around Debian, time
>>> during which otherwise I would have had to earn
On 17/03/20 10:02 pm, Hector Oron wrote:
> Hello,
>
> First of all, thanks for nominating yourselves to Debian project leaders.
>
> Debian Outreach looks like an awesome initiative to bring new blood
> into Debian and also people coming from minority groups, however, on
> the other hand, it ha
On 2020/03/18 13:16, Héctor Orón Martínez wrote:
> That's one option, yes.
> I would like people being in such case to at least be tested that
> they know about DFSG and Debian core values.
+1, as a DPL I would not add someone to a delegation unless I'm
satisfied that they are at least familia
@JPA,
On 18.03.20 12:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> On 3/18/20 10:58 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> Why is it fair to support a woman in a rich first-world country but not
> the poor boy in the streets of Delhi?
Quoting Outreachy:
"We expressly invite women (both cis and trans), trans men
On 2020/03/18 13:01, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>> You hit a very important aspect of privilege in your mail here that I'm
>> not sure you're fully conscious of. Back in 1989, me and my little
>> buddies were typing BASIC in to a ZX-Spectrum so that we can play new
>> games. It was great and
Hello,
Thanks all for the replies! It makes an interesting discussion,
however, I would like to remember those were questions to the upcoming
DPL, so we can have more informed decision when voting.
Missatge de Ulrike Uhlig del dia dc., 18 de març
2020 a les 11:37:
> Last but not least, I'd li
On 3/18/20 10:58 AM, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> You hit a very important aspect of privilege in your mail here that I'm
> not sure you're fully conscious of. Back in 1989, me and my little
> buddies were typing BASIC in to a ZX-Spectrum so that we can play new
> games. It was great and we learned a l
Hi!
@JonathanCarter: thank you very much for encouraging us to continue this
discussion here :)
On 18.03.20 10:35, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> * John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2020-03-18 10:26]:
>>> As a former Outreachy intern myself (2015) I can tell you that it the
>>> stipend has helped me to inve
Hi Adrian
On 2020/03/18 11:26, John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> You also don't need much to do programming. I started with a C64 from my
> brother because I didn't even have my own computer and we didn't have
> an x86 machine before 1997 which also belonged to my parents and not me.
You hit a v
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 12:03:13PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> On 2020/03/18 11:58, Enrico Zini wrote:
> > Note that another option available to address this, which has been used
> > before and isn't used as often as it could, is to ask DAM to have a look
> > at the missing membership problem.
On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:36:24AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
> willing to work with people who are willing to do the work.
Note that another option a
Hey Enrico
On 2020/03/18 11:58, Enrico Zini wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 11:36:24AM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote:
>
>> My honest answer? Yes, it would be nice if all the delegates could be
>> project members, I understand your concern, but often it's best to be
>> willing to work with people
On 2020/03/17 18:32, Hector Oron wrote:
> Debian Outreach looks like an awesome initiative to bring new blood
> into Debian and also people coming from minority groups, however, on
> the other hand, it has been a quite expensive to run for the real
> benefit provided to Debian project. Reading th
* John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [2020-03-18 10:26]:
> > As a former Outreachy intern myself (2015) I can tell you that it the
> > stipend has helped me to invest time to find my way around Debian, time
> > during which otherwise I would have had to earn a living elsewhere and
> > would never have gott
On 3/17/20 9:45 PM, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> As a former Outreachy intern myself (2015) I can tell you that it the
> stipend has helped me to invest time to find my way around Debian, time
> during which otherwise I would have had to earn a living elsewhere and
> would never have gotten involved furth
On 2020/03/17 22:45, Ulrike Uhlig wrote:
> (I have no idea if I am allowed to reply to this, or if only DPL
> candidates are supposed to reply. Hence forgive me if I'm overstepping a
> boundary here. Please tell me if that is the case by the way.)
Not problem whatsoever, imho it's important that D
On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 12:32 PM Hector Oron wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> First of all, thanks for nominating yourselves to Debian project leaders.
>
> Debian Outreach looks like an awesome initiative to bring new blood
> into Debian and also people coming from minority groups, however, on
> the othe
Hello,
Missatge de Ulrike Uhlig del dia dt., 17 de març
2020 a les 21:46:
> (I have no idea if I am allowed to reply to this, or if only DPL
> candidates are supposed to reply. Hence forgive me if I'm overstepping a
> boundary here. Please tell me if that is the case by the way.)
[Thread moved
Hi,
(I have no idea if I am allowed to reply to this, or if only DPL
candidates are supposed to reply. Hence forgive me if I'm overstepping a
boundary here. Please tell me if that is the case by the way.)
On 17.03.20 21:07, Hector Oron wrote:
> Missatge de Ulrike Uhlig del dia dt., 17 de març
>
Hello,
Missatge de Ulrike Uhlig del dia dt., 17 de març
2020 a les 18:34:
> > Debian Outreach [...]
> > thas been a quite expensive to run for the real
> > benefit provided to Debian project.
>
> The questions you ask seem to rely on this observation of yours, that I
> find a little bit overly s
Hi!
On 17.03.20 17:32, Hector Oron wrote:
> Debian Outreach [...]
> thas been a quite expensive to run for the real
> benefit provided to Debian project.
The questions you ask seem to rely on this observation of yours, that I
find a little bit overly suggestive:
- How do you measure benefit?
Hello,
First of all, thanks for nominating yourselves to Debian project leaders.
Debian Outreach looks like an awesome initiative to bring new blood
into Debian and also people coming from minority groups, however, on
the other hand, it has been a quite expensive to run for the real
benefit p
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