Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 08:00:56PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:50:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:41:56AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: > > > Martin, annoyed by you turning every thread on every debian list into a > > > svenl-was-treated-s

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:50:28AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:41:56AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: > > Martin, annoyed by you turning every thread on every debian list into a > > svenl-was-treated-so-bad-one > > Oh, so i suppose from the above that debian has had only

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 11:41:56AM +0200, Martin Wuertele wrote: > Hi Sven! > > * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-11 10:38]: > > > Possibly, but can you point out the little problem here ? I guess we > > have two problems : > > > > - the original problem between frans and me. > > > >

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Martin Wuertele
Hi Sven! * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-05-11 10:38]: > Possibly, but can you point out the little problem here ? I guess we > have two problems : > > - the original problem between frans and me. > > - the 'email flood' problem. Currently I only see one problem: you. Martin, anno

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:29:24AM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > * Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070511 07:47]: > > Sometimes, a problem needs to magnified to the extreme, so that people > > finally feel embarassed that they where unable to solve it years ago. > > If you magnify the wrong pa

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-11 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [070511 07:47]: > Sometimes, a problem needs to magnified to the extreme, so that people > finally feel embarassed that they where unable to solve it years ago. If you magnify the wrong part, you might magnify a little problem that would be no problem at all witho

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:20:31PM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Sven Luther] > > So, you are wrong, this is not about me, it is about debian, about its > > fundamental unability to handle social conflicts, about some DDs who > > sadly have achieved a situation of power, knowing no other way

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 01:06:09PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:47 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] > > > > I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to re

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 12:05:04PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:47:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] > > > I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to re

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sven Luther] > So, you are wrong, this is not about me, it is about debian, about its > fundamental unability to handle social conflicts, about some DDs who > sadly have achieved a situation of power, knowing no other way to handle > critics without hurting the other side as much as they can. If

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 15:47 +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] > > I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind > the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no reply. >

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:47:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] > I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind > the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no rep

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-05-10 at 03:01 -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Sven Luther] > > So, you too, believe that what was done to me was acceptable, that > > everything is justifiable > > Stop it, Sven, stop it. This thread is about Sam Hocevar and GNAA. It > is not about Sven Luther. We have had lots o

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:47:55PM +0100, MJ Ray wrote: > Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] > > I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind > the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no r

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread MJ Ray
Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure [...] I contacted Sven Luther directly with an offer to start a GR to rescind the decision and optionally do some other stuff. I've seen no reply. The offer stands and now the problem resurfaces, I will do

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 06:15:37PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 06:32:41PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:03PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > > Well, i got suspended for a y

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Thu, May 10, 2007 at 03:01:40AM -0500, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Sven Luther] > > So, you too, believe that what was done to me was acceptable, that > > everything is justifiable > > Stop it, Sven, stop it. This thread is about Sam Hocevar and GNAA. It > is not about Sven Luther. We have

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 06:32:41PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:03PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Well, i got suspended for a year, because i dared present myself as DPL, > > No, that's simply not tr

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-10 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Sven Luther] > So, you too, believe that what was done to me was acceptable, that > everything is justifiable Stop it, Sven, stop it. This thread is about Sam Hocevar and GNAA. It is not about Sven Luther. We have had lots of other threads about Sven Luther. Can you please let us have just _

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Joey Schulze
Sven Luther wrote: > The DAMs, who did not follow their own procedure, who did refuse to > provide the dates of the expulsion requests, because they knew well > enough that it would show the irregularities of the procedure, who > ignored the 70:7 expressed opinion of the DDs against the expulsion.

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:23:21PM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 08:21 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > > > you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like > > > childeren.. > > > yer profesionals act

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 08:21 +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > > you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like childeren.. > > yer profesionals act like it otherwise debian will lose its user base. > > Well, i got suspended

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2007-05-09 at 02:01 +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > you know all this flamin There's a difference between an argument and flaming. > is starting to make you guys look like childeren.. I see you're trying to fit in by writing like a child. (See, *that's* a flame.) > yer profesionals act lik

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 11:45:03PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > > > you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like > > > childeren.. > > > yer profesio

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-09 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 08:21:15AM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > > you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like childeren.. > > yer profesionals act like it otherwise debian will lose its user base. > > Well, i got sus

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-08 Thread Sven Luther
On Wed, May 09, 2007 at 02:01:52AM +0200, Rob Burgers wrote: > you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like childeren.. > yer profesionals act like it otherwise debian will lose its user base. Well, i got suspended for a year, because i dared present myself as DPL, and some felt

Re: A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-05-08 Thread Rob Burgers
you know all this flamin is starting to make you guys look like childeren.. yer profesionals act like it otherwise debian will lose its user base. my 0.2 cents. 2007/4/29, Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 05:41:03AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL P

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Did you read http://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2007/03/msg00060.html > or is there something else that I said or did that you are not satisfied > with? I really can't wait until all -vote learns that I have worked for > the SNCF (http://www.guardian.co

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. > > While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without > any especially well defined meaning, you seem to ha

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
Remi Vanicat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without >> any especially well defined meaning, you seem to have had a @gnaa.us >> email address and there's evidence of you having been an opera

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Matthew Garrett
Isaac Clerencia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sunday, 29 April 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote: >> While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without >> any especially well defined meaning, you seem to have had a @gnaa.us >> email address and there's evidence of you having been an

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Sunday, 29 April 2007, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS > > ORGANISATION. > > While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without > any especially well defined meaning, you seem to

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-29 Thread Remi Vanicat
Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. > > While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without > any especially well defined meaning, you seem to have

A question to the Debian community ... (Was: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America")

2007-04-29 Thread Sven Luther
On Sun, Apr 29, 2007 at 05:41:03AM +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. > > While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without > any especially well defined mea

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-04-28 Thread Matthew Garrett
Sam Hocevar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. While I appreciate that "member" is almost certainly something without any especially well defined meaning, you seem to have had a @gnaa.us email address and there's evidence of

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-03-07 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:02:36PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I took this as the approval of the fact that you (Sam Hocevar) created > > this site. > > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. > > KINDEST REGARDS,

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-03-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Wed, Mar 07, 2007 at 05:02:36PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2007, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > I took this as the approval of the fact that you (Sam Hocevar) created > > this site. > > I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. Good to know this :-)

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-03-07 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Thu, Mar 08, 2007, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I took this as the approval of the fact that you (Sam Hocevar) created > this site. I DID NOT CREATE THIS WEBSITE AND I AM NOT A MEMBER OF THIS ORGANISATION. KINDEST REGARDS, -- SAM. signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-03-07 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Mar 8, 2007 at 00:53:33 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > I took this as the approval of the fact that you (Sam Hocevar) created > this site. It looks like you didn't read Sam's answers in this thread. See for example <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Cheers, Julien signature.asc Description: Digital si

Question for Sam Hocevar "Gay Nigger Association of America"

2007-03-07 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, I have question to Sam Hocevar. On Sat, Mar 03, 2007 at 07:08:50PM +0100, Sam Hocevar wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2007, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > I am a little curious at a disjuncture I see between your platform and > > some of your actions, and I am hoping you can explain. In your platform,