Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach"): > On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:31:44PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > However, moderating the atmosphere so that non-drinkers do not > > feel like they are unwelcome, perhaps by curbing excess in

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-02 Thread Nicolas Dandrimont
Hey, * Chris Lamb [2017-03-31 19:31:44 +0100]: > In Debian, it would seem difficult to rename cherished events such as the > "Cheese & Wine BoF", but we could always advertise and underline ahead of > time that non-alcoholic beverages are available and actually ensure a > sufficient and interest

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Adrian Bunk dijo [Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 06:10:41PM +0300]: > When something is advertised as "beersigning" on a Debian mailing list, > what non-alcoholic beverages can one expect to be available at the venue? Hi Adrian, I understand you want to raise awareness about this issue, as consciousness on

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Mehdi Dogguy
Hi Adrian, On 31/03/2017 16:36, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Hi, > > first of all thanks a lot for running. > > Both of you consider outreach important. > > People not drinking alcohol are half of all adults in the world, but > we are under-represented in free software. Unfortunately far too many > pe

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Lamb
Adrian, > > Not drinking alcohol hardly implies a diet consisting entirely of > > Coca-Cola. > > When something is advertised as "beersigning" on a Debian mailing list, > what non-alcoholic beverages can one expect to be available at the venue? Well, I don't know — that would depend on the venue

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Adrian Bunk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:31:44PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: >... > Whilst I've learnt over the years to accept that terms such as "go for a > pint" aren't meant to be taken 100% literally and — at least in the UK — > not drinking alcohol at social fu

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-04-01 Thread Chris Lamb
Steve Langasek wrote: > > However, moderating the atmosphere so that non-drinkers do not feel like > > they are unwelcome, perhaps by curbing excess in some of the drinkers, might > > be the key here. > > As DPL, what standard will you use to determine that some developers are > drinking to exces

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-03-31 Thread Russ Allbery
(We're at that time of the year when I'm never sure whether to take anything on the Internet seriously, but since this affects me personally, I'll go ahead and post a serious response.) Adrian Bunk writes: > first of all thanks a lot for running. > Both of you consider outreach important. > Pe

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-03-31 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Chris, On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 07:31:44PM +0100, Chris Lamb wrote: > > How do you plan to create a more welcoming environment for people not > > drinking alcohol, and reach out to teetotalers? > Great points, Adrian. Whilst not as rife in the free software word, alcohol > is almost used as a

Re: Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-03-31 Thread Chris Lamb
Dear Adrian, > How do you plan to create a more welcoming environment for people not > drinking alcohol, and reach out to teetotalers? Great points, Adrian. Whilst not as rife in the free software word, alcohol is almost used as a currency within Silicon Valley tech circles to bribe or entice em

Question for DPL candidates: Teetotaler outreach

2017-03-31 Thread Adrian Bunk
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hi, first of all thanks a lot for running. Both of you consider outreach important. People not drinking alcohol are half of all adults in the world, but we are under-represented in free software. Unfortunately far too many people mistake alcohol