Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:27:28PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is a draft that modifies proposal A in a minor way, So any chance we could get some more progress on this? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't speak for anyone

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-18 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:27:28PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > This is a draft that modifies proposal A in a minor way, So any chance we could get some more progress on this? Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I don't speak for anyone

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-10 Thread zhaoway
> Shouldn't this include a "No" option as well as "Further Discussion"? "no" to what ? hehe.. i guess "no" 's kinda attitude, eh? ;) never mind, oh, yes, :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) pgpjJFYe5vjS5.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-10 Thread zhaoway
> Shouldn't this include a "No" option as well as "Further Discussion"? "no" to what ? hehe.. i guess "no" 's kinda attitude, eh? ;) never mind, oh, yes, :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) PGP signature

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:27:28PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > A suggested ballot for the secretary to consider is: > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > [ ] YES to proposal A: Foundation + issue/modify/withdraw >Amend the const

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-10 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 10:27:28PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > A suggested ballot for the secretary to consider is: > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > [ ] YES to proposal A: Foundation + issue/modify/withdraw >Amend the cons

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Buddha Buck
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > A suggested ballot for the secretary to consider is: > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > [ ] YES to proposal A: Foundation + issue/modify/withdraw >Amend the constitution to introduce Found

PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, This is a draft that modifies proposal A in a minor way, diasambiguating how the constitution is modified (It does this by removing the constituion from the Foundation Document class). It does not change any substantive parts of the proposals. I g

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Buddha Buck
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > A suggested ballot for the secretary to consider is: > - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > [ ] YES to proposal A: Foundation + issue/modify/withdraw >Amend the constitution to introduce Foun

PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] Disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-11-09 Thread Manoj Srivastava
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hi, This is a draft that modifies proposal A in a minor way, diasambiguating how the constitution is modified (It does this by removing the constituion from the Foundation Document class). It does not change any substantive parts of the proposals. I

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I'm talking about tm, which Gnus used previously, and was a lot John> better that whatever it is that it uses now. Check your facts. Gnus never used tm, though you may have. The tm folks are now producing semi-gnus, and you sho

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> I'm talking about tm, which Gnus used previously, and was a lot John> better that whatever it is that it uses now. Check your facts. Gnus never used tm, though you may have. The tm folks are now producing semi-gnus, and you sh

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely John> that it blindly deletes PGPMIME parts from a message, making it look John> like there was no sig... Gnus does not yet supprt PGPMIME. It may in the future

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread John Goerzen
I'm talking about tm, which Gnus used previously, and was a lot better that whatever it is that it uses now. -- John Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread John Goerzen
I'm talking about tm, which Gnus used previously, and was a lot better that whatever it is that it uses now. -- John Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > John> Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
>>"John" == John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: John> Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely John> that it blindly deletes PGPMIME parts from a message, making it look John> like there was no sig... Gnus does not yet supprt PGPMIME. It may in the futur

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely that it blindly deletes PGPMIME parts from a message, making it look like there was no sig... Sigh. Its older MIME handling was a lot better. Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:30:40PM -050

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:30:40PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Please remember to GPG-sign your seconds! > > Stevie Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: He did. Looked like a valid RFC 2015 message to me and mutt, at least... -- G. Branden Robinson | "I came, I saw, she conq

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
Please remember to GPG-sign your seconds! Stevie Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I second Branden's proposal. > > -- > Stevie Strickland| 325912 Georgia Tech Station > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Georgia Institute of Technology > http://kelewan.debian.net/~s

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I formally second this proposal. Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but > according to , the current > Project Secretary re

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
Yeah, I ran into the same GNUS bug that someone else did -- namely that it blindly deletes PGPMIME parts from a message, making it look like there was no sig... Sigh. Its older MIME handling was a lot better. Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:30:40PM -05

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Darren O. Benham
I thought I'd respond to some of this just as a way of clarifying my thinking... > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but > > according to , the current > > Projec

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 12:30:40PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > Please remember to GPG-sign your seconds! > > Stevie Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: He did. Looked like a valid RFC 2015 message to me and mutt, at least... -- G. Branden Robinson | "I came, I saw, she con

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
Please remember to GPG-sign your seconds! Stevie Strickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I second Branden's proposal. > > -- > Stevie Strickland| 325912 Georgia Tech Station > [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Georgia Institute of Technology > http://kelewan.debian.net/~

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread John Goerzen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I formally second this proposal. Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but > according to , the current > Project Secretary r

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I repeat my original second to this proposal. Bob __ _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 Branden

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, I am sponsoring this proposal with Message ID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Marcus On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > == > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powe

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Darren O. Benham
I thought I'd respond to some of this just as a way of clarifying my thinking... > Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > * This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but > > according to , the current > > Proje

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Robert D. Hilliard
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I repeat my original second to this proposal. Bob __ _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Palm City, FL USA PGP Key ID: A8E40EB9 Brande

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
Hi, I am sponsoring this proposal with Message ID <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Marcus On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > == > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Pow

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Crystal
I Second this On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > == > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or r

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:29:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I second Branden's proposal. > > But unsigned, so it just doesn't count. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Oct 10 19:40:01 2000

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:29:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I second Branden's proposal. > > But unsigned, so it just doesn't count. Please check your mailer. When it left my exim queue, it was signed. Dan /--

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Stevie Strickland
I second Branden's proposal. -- Stevie Strickland| 325912 Georgia Tech Station [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Georgia Institute of Technology http://kelewan.debian.net/~sstrickl | Atlanta, GA 30332 Official Debian GNU/Linux Developer | CS 2130 TA pgpmToEeQ2aCj.pgp D

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I second Branden's proposal. But unsigned, so it just doesn't count.

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
I second Branden's proposal. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [EM

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > according to , the current > Project Secretary refuses to recognizes Proposed General Resolutions sent > to any list other than debian-project. ^^^

PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Branden Robinson
* This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but according to , the current Project Secretary refuses to recognizes Proposed General Resolutions sent to any list other than debian-project. * I have been told, secondhand, that th

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-10 Thread Peter Crystal
I Second this On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:55AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > == > 4. The Developers by way of General Resolution or election > >4.1. Powers > > Together, the Developers may: > 1. Appoint or

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Michael Beattie
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:29:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I second Branden's proposal. > > But unsigned, so it just doesn't count. Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ... [-- PGP output follows (current time: Tue Oct 10 19:40:01 200

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Oct 09, 2000 at 11:29:23PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I second Branden's proposal. > > But unsigned, so it just doesn't count. Please check your mailer. When it left my exim queue, it was signed. Dan /-

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Stevie Strickland
I second Branden's proposal. -- Stevie Strickland| 325912 Georgia Tech Station [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Georgia Institute of Technology http://kelewan.debian.net/~sstrickl | Atlanta, GA 30332 Official Debian GNU/Linux Developer | CS 2130 TA PGP signature

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Daniel Jacobowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I second Branden's proposal. But unsigned, so it just doesn't count. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
I second Branden's proposal. Dan /\ /\ | Daniel Jacobowitz|__|SCS Class of 2002 | | Debian GNU/Linux Developer__Carnegie Mellon University | | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | [E

Re: PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
On Tue, Oct 10, 2000 at 01:05:54AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > according to , the current > Project Secretary refuses to recognizes Proposed General Resolutions sent > to any list other than debian-project. ^^

PROPOSED: [CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT] disambiguation of 4.1.5

2000-10-09 Thread Branden Robinson
* This proposal was originally made to debian-project on 19 July, but according to , the current Project Secretary refuses to recognizes Proposed General Resolutions sent to any list other than debian-project. * I have been told, secondhand, that t