Re: Our counting procedure

2001-04-02 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:56:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Here's how people voted: > > > Can any of

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-04-02 Thread Sven LUTHER
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:56:31PM -0500, Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Here's how people voted: > > > Can any o

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-31 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on "Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:26:02 -0800", Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. The software needs to be fixed. > 5. Once they're done, the software can be fixed. > 6. The vote software should be packaged when this is all over with - in >fact people should e

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-31 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Collins) writes: > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > made no preference of one over the other. That's ludicrous. It is completely obvious that this voter meant to specify preference for the marked candidate relative to all others.

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-31 Thread Taketoshi Sano
Hi. In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on "Fri, 30 Mar 2001 16:26:02 -0800", Joseph Carter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 3. The software needs to be fixed. > 5. Once they're done, the software can be fixed. > 6. The vote software should be packaged when this is all over with - in >fact people should

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-31 Thread Bdale Garbee
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ben Collins) writes: > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > made no preference of one over the other. That's ludicrous. It is completely obvious that this voter meant to specify preference for the marked candidate relative to all others.

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 05:11:12PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > > > So what e

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Joseph Carter
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 05:11:12PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > > > So what

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretation

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I This vote is defined to declare that item 3 dominates all other items. Items not marked are declared by the voter as

Status (was Re: Our counting procedure)

2001-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:19:46PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > Debatable. Unmarked votes can also be counted as "equally last", so > that "--1--" count is the same as "22122". The constitution is unclear > on this (as well as many other things), which is why AJ, Buddha Buck, > Raul, and a coupl

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Start with 1, don't skip any numbers, don't repeat. To vote > > "no, no matter what" do not leave an option black but rank "None Of > > The Above" higher than the unacceptable choices. > > So what exactly is "open for interpretatio

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Dale Scheetz
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I This vote is defined to declare that item 3 dominates all other items. Items not marked are declared by the voter as

Status (was Re: Our counting procedure)

2001-03-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:19:46PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > Debatable. Unmarked votes can also be counted as "equally last", so > that "--1--" count is the same as "22122". The constitution is unclear > on this (as well as many other things), which is why AJ, Buddha Buck, > Raul, and a coup

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-30 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
says, voting --1-- ammounts IMO to "I like C over ABDE but I don't have a preference regarding the relation among the other options". Along the same vein, "--1-2" means "I like C and 'nothing else'". With our counting procedure this is *not* the same as &q

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
says, voting --1-- ammounts IMO to "I like C over ABDE but I don't have a preference regarding the relation among the other options". Along the same vein, "--1-2" means "I like C and 'nothing else'". With our counting procedure this is *not* the sam

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-01, 20:56 (CST), Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing is, you only get a vote over someone else if they marked it. > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > made no preference of one over the other. So not specifying a rank in > the ord

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> The thing is, you only get a vote over someone else if they Ben> marked it. Right.. Ben> IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as Ben> nothing, since I made no preference of one over the other. So Ben>

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Here's how people voted: > > > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (yo

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Here's how people voted: > > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) > > confirm th

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Steve Greenland
On 29-Mar-01, 20:56 (CST), Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The thing is, you only get a vote over someone else if they marked it. > > IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as nothing, since I > made no preference of one over the other. So not specifying a rank in > the or

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Ben Gertzfield
> "Ben" == Ben Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Ben> The thing is, you only get a vote over someone else if they Ben> marked it. Right.. Ben> IOW, if I only mark "--1--", then my vote is as good as Ben> nothing, since I made no preference of one over the other. So Ben

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here's how people voted: > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) > confirm that the numbers are right? Hmm, actually, I get different results too.

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Ben Collins wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Here's how people voted: > > > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (y

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Ben Collins
On Fri, Mar 30, 2001 at 11:53:51AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Here's how people voted: > > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) > > confirm t

Re: Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 09:23:02PM +0200, Marcelo E. Magallon wrote: > >> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here's how people voted: > Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) > confirm that the numbers are right? Hmm, actually, I get different results too.

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of the

Our counting procedure

2001-03-29 Thread Marcelo E. Magallon
>> Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's how people voted: Can any of you guys that recounted the results (you know you did) confirm that the numbers are right? I can get those numbers only if I make an assumption which a) I think is wrong b) throws some people's votes out of th