Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
[The first time I replied to this message, I forgot to send a copy to the list] In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to >see what would be gained. That question is answered at: http://www.debian.org/~stevegr/voting/ There, I talk about a number of criteria for co

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-13 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
[The first time I replied to this message, I forgot to send a copy to the list] >In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to >see >what >would be gained. That question is answered at: http://www.debian.org/~stevegr/voting/ There, I talk about a number of criteria for c

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Darren O. Benham
I could rediscribe the method but I couldn't make changes as large as what were suggested without going through the formal change process for the constitution. On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 07:27:43PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I should point o

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > I should point out that leaving this issue unresolved makes it possible for > people to raise a legitimate challenge to our voting procedure, since the > present description avails itself of multiple interpretations of the same > set of ballots. I a

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 02:58:35PM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to see what > would be gained. Elimination of ambuguity. Recent events have persuaded me, however, that lots of people like their ambiguity, even if it ultimately e

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Darren O. Benham
I could rediscribe the method but I couldn't make changes as large as what were suggested without going through the formal change process for the constitution. On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 07:27:43PM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > I should point

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, Branden Robinson wrote: > I should point out that leaving this issue unresolved makes it possible for > people to raise a legitimate challenge to our voting procedure, since the > present description avails itself of multiple interpretations of the same > set of ballots. I

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 02:58:35PM -0700, Darren O. Benham wrote: > In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to see what > would be gained. Elimination of ambuguity. Recent events have persuaded me, however, that lots of people like their ambiguity, even if it ultimately

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Darren O. Benham
In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to see what would be gained. On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 01:36:43AM +, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > [snipped an interesting and long discussion on voting methods] > > If members of debian want to perfect their voting system, > then I sug

Re: It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-12 Thread Darren O. Benham
In the end, it takes a lot to change our constitution and I fail to see what would be gained. On Mon, Jun 12, 2000 at 01:36:43AM +, MIKE OSSIPOFF wrote: > [snipped an interesting and long discussion on voting methods] > > If members of debian want to perfect their voting system, > then I su

It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-11 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
First, about how to treat short rankings, if you've ranked X and you haven't ranked Y, then it's reasonable to say that you've ranked X over Y. I hope that's how that's interpreted in the debian count rules. The rank-counting procedure now in use by debian carries out Condorcet's suggestion that

It isn't quite Condorcet's method.

2000-06-11 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
First, about how to treat short rankings, if you've ranked X and you haven't ranked Y, then it's reasonable to say that you've ranked X over Y. I hope that's how that's interpreted in the debian count rules. The rank-counting procedure now in use by debian carries out Condorcet's suggestion that